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[AngryCola]

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Are you seriously denying that the war did not have a positive impact on the economy?

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Yes.

Are you seriously claiming that war can have a positive impact on the economy? If so, how?

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I'm pretty sure you're about to get more answers to this question than you really want.

[Borodog]

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So the new deal and the war did not affect the depression? Just... americans?

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Oh the New Deal and the war affected the depression all right. They exacerbated and lengthened it, as I said before.

[Borodog]

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Are you seriously denying that the war did not have a positive impact on the economy?

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Yes.

Are you seriously claiming that war can have a positive impact on the economy? If so, how?

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I'm pretty sure you're about to get more answers to this question than you really want.

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I'm pretty sure I'm about to get more handwaving that I really want.

[BCPVP]

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What brought America out of the great depression?

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Americans. And not any that were elected.

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Are you seriously denying that the war did not have a positive impact on the economy?

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Maybe in a very stretched out way (like the economy would be worse off if Hitler invaded the U.S.

Otherwise, monster wars like WWII are a waste of people and resources.

[TomCollins]

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Are you seriously denying that the war did not have a positive impact on the economy?

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Yes.

Are you seriously claiming that war can have a positive impact on the economy? If so, how?

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Ok, we made a few thousand airplanes and and tanks. We made millions of uniforms as well. Do you think the GDP increased because of this?

[TomCollins]

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What brought America out of the great depression?

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Americans. And not any that were elected.

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Are you seriously denying that the war did not have a positive impact on the economy?

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Maybe in a very stretched out way (like the economy would be worse off if Hitler invaded the U.S.

Otherwise, monster wars like WWII are a waste of people and resources.

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I'm not saying its not a waste. I'm simply stating that it improved the economy.

Would you say in general that war is not good for the economy? I remember hearing in a speech by george bush that war is bad for the economy and thought to myself that is obviously false. Perhaps I am mistaken. Do you claim that war is always (or almost always) bad for the economy?

[TomCollins]

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Would you say in general that war is not good for the economy? I remember hearing in a speech by george bush that war is bad for the economy and thought to myself that is obviously false. Perhaps I am mistaken. Do you claim that war is always (or almost always) bad for the economy?

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You need a definition of improving the economy. I am using the standard definitions of GDP, employment, and inflation.

[Borodog]

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Are you seriously denying that the war did not have a positive impact on the economy?

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Yes.

Are you seriously claiming that war can have a positive impact on the economy? If so, how?

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Ok, we made a few thousand airplanes and and tanks. We made millions of uniforms as well. Do you think the GDP increased because of this?

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Of course not. Where did the money come from?

If you can help the economy by making uniforms, why not just pass a law requiring everyone to wear jumpsuits? Would all of the men wearing uniforms have gone without clothing if FDR didn't force them to wear uniforms?

Absurd.

Seems acceptable to me.