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#32
10-30-2005, 05:04 PM
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Re: Scarface is hugely overrated
It's probably the most over-rated movie of the last 20 or 30 years. It was the beginning of Al Pacino's decline as an actor, when he first really started to get away from a quiet, concentrated, more realistic style and into a more overblown theatrical style. It was jarring first seeing Pacino trying on this big, cartoony style after his previous subtlety, but it's his schtick now, and he's into it.
The movie itself got plenty of bad reviews when it came out, some for the violence of the chainsaw scene, which was way past the sensibility of the times -- the world wasn't that inundated with the "killing for fun" way of movie making that slasher horror films have made passe by now. Back then, it was much more shocking. Unfortunately, the movie was underdeveloped in the beginning and from then on absurdly overwritten -- the pretty unmotivated coke abuse, ridiculous and bathetic restaurant scene, fairly pointless killing of his best friend and weird incest problems with his sister, and finally the completely cartoonish ending where the movie finally gave up even the remotest pretense of plausibility. The movie had a story arc to cover, and plot points to hit, and it pushed its way through them with all the smoothness of a steak dinner through an impacted colon. Almost every scene feels false or as if it could have been much better written or realized. Was it a good time? Well, not a bad one, if you have low expectations. Was it a good movie? No, but that doesn't mean you can't hae some fun with it. It is a rags to riches story, and has a tragic arc, so it at least has the structure of something big that people can relate to. Scarface is a smart idiot, or a flawed man, however you want to look at it, and people seem to like that a lot. It strikes a nerve with lots of people, probably people who are longing for a good urban rise and fall tragedy and had to settle for this one. 
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#33
10-30-2005, 05:13 PM
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Re: Scarface is hugely overrated
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[ QUOTE ] I've always thought you need to take Scarface with an enormous grain of salt. Part of what makes it so awesome is how completely over-the-top Pacino's antics (and everything else in the movie) are. You're not supposed to take it seriously, are you? [/ QUOTE ] The problem is that every rapper on cribs takes it absolutely seriously, which creates an entire subcultere of 13 year old boys who assume it must be great before the even see it. If you really sit down and view it objectively it is bad movie. If you enjoy bad movies that are completely over the top, I recommend "The Towering Inferno." The scene where OJ Simpson rescues a cat and stikes a heisman pose while stiff arming the fire is quite possibly the greatest bad movie moment ever, IMO. [/ QUOTE ] Now I want to see The Towering Inferno again! Agreed that this movie's popularity comes largely from its popularity, and especially its popularity with certain groups that are held in absurdly high esteem. Much like you can guarantee that some of your friends will like whatever is the most popular thing that comes out, just because it's the most popular thing that's out. It's a must for wigger street cred, and for all the others who actually believe that concepts like street cred aren't funny.
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