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#31
10-26-2005, 02:51 PM
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Re: ... No Ace No Ace... Hmmm, an Ace
my general strategy for playing KK on the flop with an Ace HU is to cold call him down without a little more indication he has the Ace. This varies based on my stacksize and risk etc...
Often they are just as afraid of the ace as you are. I call his bet and I expect to see QQ or JJ. 
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#32
10-26-2005, 02:57 PM
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Re: ... No Ace No Ace... Hmmm, an Ace
convince me that it's ok to raise 33% of ur stack pf without pushing...
convince me that u have room to maneuver postflop after u've put over 30% of ur stack in preflop...
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#33
10-26-2005, 02:58 PM
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Re: ... No Ace No Ace... Hmmm, an Ace
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my general strategy for playing KK on the flop with an Ace HU is to cold call him down without a little more indication he has the Ace. This varies based on my stacksize and risk etc... Often they are just as afraid of the ace as you are. I call his bet and I expect to see QQ or JJ. [/ QUOTE ] If there is no indication that he has an ace, why wouldnt you raise it? IMO cold calling KK with an A on the board is the worst thing you can do, unless its costing you less then %20 of yours chips and can afford it, still you should get info asap
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#34
10-26-2005, 03:15 PM
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Hmmmm... this discussion is starting to go nowhere.
Thanks for all the input. The push preflop idea makes some sense, but I still prefer my preflop line because of how much value I can pick up when an ace doesn't flop. Even when one does flop there is room to double up here if he doesn't have an ace. Raising the flop seems very silly to me and shillix wrote a good response as to why. Unless I get an unusually cheap showdown (i.e. he min bets all the way), I am fine getting all my money in here given his line and my pf action. Obviously I'm not thrilled, but this is only a problem when an ace flops, and I still don't see it as the huge problem other people think. Anyways, I pushed, he typed in damn and called with JT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Really didn't feel like an ace. I also don't think he has clubs all that often, but usually a lower pair. An ace a fair amount of the time too. Special thanks to freemoney for being a douchebag.
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#35
10-26-2005, 03:23 PM
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Re: ... No Ace No Ace... Hmmm, an Ace
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If there is no indication that he has an ace, why wouldnt you raise it? [/ QUOTE ] That's easy...There is no way to know for sure... If he has the Ace and I push I lose If he has the ace and I call I lose If he doesnt have the ace and I push, he folds If he doesnt have the ace and I let him bet I get more chips. If he draws out on me with a 2 outer because of my careless cold calling then oh well. If I am wrong, I want to know.
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#36
10-26-2005, 03:35 PM
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Re: ... No Ace No Ace... Hmmm, an Ace
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[ QUOTE ] If there is no indication that he has an ace, why wouldnt you raise it? [/ QUOTE ] If he draws out on me with a 2 outer because of my careless cold calling then oh well. If I am wrong, I want to know. [/ QUOTE ] You're right, except that the coldcall isn't careless. It's carefully calculated. Just to clarify, although I'm sure you knew that.
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