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#31
10-05-2005, 03:51 PM
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Re: Televised execution of criminals
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[ QUOTE ] I'm not saying it's good for society in general, but I'd have no moral qualms about killing someone that raped my daughter. [/ QUOTE ] In fact, the only thing that might possibly prevent me from doing this would be that my family would lose me. Otherwise, I can say it would be a certainty. [/ QUOTE ] Definitely... again, though, I don't necessarily want the government authorizing this. Think of how quickly we'd be killing each other for.. oh, I don't know, <font color="white">hitting a two-outer </font> stealing a loaf of bread. 
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#32
10-05-2005, 03:54 PM
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Re: Televised execution of criminals
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edit: follow-up: they showed an execution in The Green Mile, but it was obviously an actor. is it different to you to watch a real person die? [/ QUOTE ] What in the hell kind of a question is that? Is there any doubt as to the answer to this? Wouldn't anyone who answered "no," in essense, be a sociopath? Possibly a full-blown psychopath?
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#33
10-05-2005, 03:55 PM
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Re: Televised execution of criminals
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[ QUOTE ] Do you watch it? [/ QUOTE ] I dunno. What else is on? [/ QUOTE ] At first I started to laugh, then realized, if say the Bears were playing on another channel, I'd be watching that.
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#34
10-05-2005, 03:56 PM
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Re: Televised execution of criminals
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would consider having public executions to be beneficial. [/ QUOTE ] As another level of negative reinforcement, you mean? In the case of something like 9/11, I don't see anything wrong with televising an execution. This guy 'executed' thousands of people, and the media televised that for the better part of the last four years. Tit for tat. [/ QUOTE ] There could be some crime prevention benefits but mostly I meant that I think having the entire judicial process from start to finish open to the public eye is a good thing. Whereas most of the stuff on MTV for instances has no value and is a bad thing. [/ QUOTE ] If 'everyday' (ie. not 9/11 terrorists) executions were televised, I would suspect that that you would see support for capital punishment start to slide. The spectacle of watching the state kill someone would horrify a good number of people. This would be especially true if the person being put to death is a woman (especially a young white woman), is mentally handicapped, is especially young, or where there is doubt as to the guilt of the person being executed.
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#35
10-05-2005, 03:57 PM
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Re: Televised execution of criminals
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As another level of negative reinforcement, you mean? [/ QUOTE ] I don't think this term means what you think.
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#36
10-05-2005, 03:59 PM
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Re: Televised execution of criminals
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What in the hell kind of a question is that? Is there any doubt as to the answer to this? Wouldn't anyone who answered "no," in essense, be a sociopath? Possibly a full-blown psychopath? [/ QUOTE ] Well, there are two components to an execution: 1) The physical events that are happening -- electric current is passed through a person's body until he is dead. This is inevitably accompanied by convulsions, freakish images, etc. 2) The taking of a real person's life. A scene in a movie removes the second aspect from consideration... so the question about the actor separates the two aspects of the execution. Also, 9/11 is a bad example, but some of the criminals on TV are so far removed from most of our lives that they would just seem like movie characters to many viewers -- and not in a sociopathic way.
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#37
10-05-2005, 04:01 PM
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Re: Televised execution of criminals
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[ QUOTE ] As another level of negative reinforcement, you mean? [/ QUOTE ] I don't think this term means what you think. [/ QUOTE ] I probably misused it, I'm doing a few things at once. I meant to suggest that a televised execution would provide a clear example of why it is bad to kill and rape people... and thereby discourage them from doing it. You're right -- negative reinforcement would be something like slapping someone every time he swore, or something like that. My bad.
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#40
10-05-2005, 04:04 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Exactly I'm always baffled why people try to make revenge out to be such a bad thing. IMO revenge is one of the things that makes society possible. [/ QUOTE ] Personally I don't think it's a bad thing at all; I just don't think the government should encourage it. [/ QUOTE ] I don't consider government to "the government" but rather just another tool of society so that would be like saying society shouldn't encourage society. If you don't think it is a bad thing, then why shouldn't we encourage it on some level? I'll state right now for example I fully support criminal punishment for strictly vindictive purposes.
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