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#31
09-22-2005, 06:24 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
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"I’m under no obligation to tell you how much I have in front of me." technically you don't have to count your own chips if you don't want too but you are obligated to allow the dealer to count your chips at anytime during the tournament upon request. [/ QUOTE ] Please show me where in the TDA rules it says that. 
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#32
09-22-2005, 06:31 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
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"I put you all in" is not the same as "I bet the amount you have in front of you" or Just bet enough so that if he calls he/she will be all in. [/ QUOTE ] When someone says "I put you all-in" what they usually are implying is that they want to bet an amount equal to the number of chips that person has in front of them.
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#33
09-22-2005, 06:33 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
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[ QUOTE ] "I’m under no obligation to tell you how much I have in front of me." technically you don't have to count your own chips if you don't want too but you are obligated to allow the dealer to count your chips at anytime during the tournament upon request. [/ QUOTE ] Please show me where in the TDA rules it says that. [/ QUOTE ] I can't imagine playing poker without the ability to get a chip count when necessary. Perhaps someone can clarify this better than I can.
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#34
09-22-2005, 07:08 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
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From Robert’s rules of Poker - PROCEDURES “19. Any player is entitled to a clear view of an opponent’s chips. Higher denomination chips should be easily visible.” Please notice it says “clear view” not “count” Please show me in Robert’s or in the TDA tournament rules where you “have every right” to an opponent’s chip count [/ QUOTE ] You are just arguing semantics. "Clear view" means that they have to be countable. If you want to be a dick and make your opponent count your chips, I guess you can, but I fail to see the point. "I put you all-in" is perfectly understandable and acceptable and I don't understand why anyone disagrees.
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#35
09-22-2005, 07:51 PM
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That's OK I prefer to play with people who play by the rules. [/ QUOTE ] Possibly the most passive-agressive statement I've ever read.
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#36
09-22-2005, 07:59 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
Of course they are implying that, however it is incorrect, because you are assuming his action will be to move all in. The correct wording will be "I bet the amount you have in front of you" or "I move all in"
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] "I put you all in" is not the same as "I bet the amount you have in front of you" or Just bet enough so that if he calls he/she will be all in. [/ QUOTE ] When someone says "I put you all-in" what they usually are implying is that they want to bet an amount equal to the number of chips that person has in front of them. [/ QUOTE ]
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#37
09-22-2005, 10:25 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
I think it's considered a polite practice to give your stack amount, so that it speeds up the game (by avoiding the wait for someone to calculate your chips).
At a home game especially, no matter what the techincal rules, it seems counter-productive to appear as a nit, doesn't it?
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#38
09-22-2005, 10:46 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
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Of course they are implying that, however it is incorrect, because you are assuming his action will be to move all in. The correct wording will be "I bet the amount you have in front of you" or "I move all in" [/ QUOTE ] Wrong. You are not moving all-in, you are betting the amount the other player has, which is a signifigant difference if other people are still in the hand. There is no assumption that the other player will call, you are just making this up. Have you ever been confused by this statement in a real game?
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#39
09-22-2005, 11:17 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
Didnt I say that in the first part of the statement? Maybe I was a little wrong of the moving all in part. But when someone say "I put you all in" is a totally wrong statement. You CANNOT force your opponent to move all in under no circumstances. Say the correct phrase and you won't look like a pompous ass at the table I say.
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The correct wording will be "I bet the amount you have in front of you" or "I move all in" [/ QUOTE ] Wrong. You are not moving all-in, you are betting the amount the other player has, which is a signifigant difference if other people are still in the hand. There is no assumption that the other player will call, you are just making this up. Have you ever been confused by this statement in a real game? [/ QUOTE ]
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#40
09-22-2005, 11:24 PM
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Re: I\'ll put you all-in
I've probably played over 100 home games in the last year, and not a single time when someone said "I'll put you all-in" did someone interpret it to mean anything other than "I'll bet an amount of chips equal to what you've got".
Being a nit tends to scare away dead money.
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