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Old 09-12-2005, 04:17 PM
FishHooks FishHooks is offline
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Default Re: Brazil Elects a Lot of Idiots

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I'm thinking about getting some T-Shirts printed up that say "I am NOT a &^%#*$& revenue stream".

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LMAO
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:34 PM
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I'm all for simplifying the tax code. I don't see any politicians lining up for this, and the average American cares more about Jerry Springer.

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Of course the liberal democrats oppose such proposals. The fair tax proposal is that it should be revenue neutral, but the libs claim it wouldn't be. Of course it should be easy to pass it with a time limit so that the system could just be changed back if it didn't work. But what is comical about the libs opposing this is that they really don't want revenue neutrality, only to benefit certain economic levels of society over other ones. They really want taxing to produce as much as possible to spend on social programs to buy more votes. However, I would be willing for the fair tax sales tax proposal not to be revenue neutral if it didn't cause people under a certain threshold like 50K a year to pay more tax. Taxing the underground economy should produce a huge revenue spike, and although taxes should be lowered some in respect of this, some of such an increase should be used on needed infrastructure improvements imo.
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: Brazil Elects a Lot of Idiots

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Of course the liberal democrats oppose such proposals. The fair tax proposal is that it should be revenue neutral, but the libs claim it wouldn't be. Of course it should be easy to pass it with a time limit so that the system could just be changed back if it didn't work. But what is comical about the libs opposing this is that they really don't want revenue neutrality, only to benefit certain economic levels of society over other ones. They really want taxing to produce as much as possible to spend on social programs to buy more votes.

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Putting aside revenue neutrality for a moment, but getting to tax simplicity (although I think you could posit a similar argument for why Republicans are hesitant to produce revenue neutral taxes, as well) -

The flip side of what's quoted above, of course, is that no Republican would ever get behind simplifying the tax code, because it's a bread-and-butter issue for them.

Isn't the FairTax borne out a motivation for a simpler tax code?

Simplifying the tax code takes taxes off the front-burner.

And having taxes constantly on the front-burner means that every member of Congress will be faced with a seemingly endless series of votes to cut taxes (the more taxes, the more votes). Every vote against a tax cut is a huge political liability. Keeping various taxes alive enough to force regular votes on them is a Karl Rove wet dream. Was not "John Kerry = hundreds of votes to raise taxes" one of the oft-repeated talking points of the Bush campaign last November?

In other words, I think we can imagine why Republicans don't fully get behind tax simplification, either.
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:55 PM
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Redistribution of income is a vital government function.
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Old 09-12-2005, 05:01 PM
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NO
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Old 09-12-2005, 05:06 PM
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I don't buy all the lib-this con-this crap.

They both spend like it's going out of style. They are both/all whores, IMO.

I'd like a simple system that neither party can "tweak" for thier own agenda/pork projects.
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Old 09-12-2005, 05:24 PM
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I suppose he hasn't heard that Adam Smith defeated Karl Marx in the cold war.

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Yeah, but Marx was only a baby, Smith was in the prime of his career. Later on Marx developed a hell of a left hook and his hand speed improved as well.

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Old 09-12-2005, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: I\'m so mad, people are trying to steal from me, what should I do

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sure you did, We are one of the best public colleges, and one of the top in business.

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That's right...you're a freshman...in college. You must be well informed. Why do you insist on bringing Clinton into this debate? He has not been in office for years. Address the current situation. Alternatively you can create list after list of presidential rankings. Have fun!
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Old 09-12-2005, 05:36 PM
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In other words, I think we can imagine why Republicans don't fully get behind tax simplification, either.

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Flat tax = simpler though not as simple as sales tax fair tax would be.
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Old 09-12-2005, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: I\'m so mad, people are trying to steal from me, what should I do

Only 25%? hahahahahahaha!

Try 48%.
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