80 pf question

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what is gus hansen's screen name on UB, or any other famous players on ub?
thx

[Ulysses]

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ive seen him make near expert plays.

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lol, thanks for the eval, champ.

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dude, wtf. fine, you think im a duche. but c'mon, i see a damn good play when i see a damn good play. im not saying that i am an expert, just that i can recognize a great play. you dont need to make a post like that in response to an honest opinion.

how about trying : "you may have overestimated his abilities." or "be careful what you call expert b/c what is to you may not be to the "real" experts like ray etc.."

no, you have to be a douche right back.

thanks.

Barron

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You said you've seen him make "near expert" plays. Please explain to me what plays you saw that were "near expert" and how you distinguished them from "expert" plays. Thanks.

[DcifrThs]

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ive seen him make near expert plays.

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lol, thanks for the eval, champ.

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dude, wtf. fine, you think im a duche. but c'mon, i see a damn good play when i see a damn good play. im not saying that i am an expert, just that i can recognize a great play. you dont need to make a post like that in response to an honest opinion.

how about trying : "you may have overestimated his abilities." or "be careful what you call expert b/c what is to you may not be to the "real" experts like ray etc.."

no, you have to be a douche right back.

thanks.

Barron

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You said you've seen him make "near expert" plays. Please explain to me what plays you saw that were "near expert" and how you distinguished them from "expert" plays. Thanks.

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plays like checkraising the turn OOP w/ 2nd best hand to get a tight MP squeezed between gus & fish to fold a hand that beats both so that gus gets to SD vs. the fish HU.

this kind of play is a separator imo between a good player and a great player, but not one that is necessarily expert because it can be arrived at by deduction and not necessarily multilevel + mathematical analysis that encompases what i would consider expert play. therefore, that particular play is "near expert" imo.

clearly i can be wrong b/c thats just my opinion.

-Barron

[J.A.Sucker]

Huh?

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Huh?

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ugh, i thought i was bein clear. what would you like me to clarify ?

Barron

[mike l.]

i respect you more now, that was a good reply.

[PokerPrince]

Use less big words for him.

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i respect you more now, that was a good reply.

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uh oh...i guess i better post something stupid and naive, and fast [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Barron

[SA125]

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plays like checkraising the turn OOP w/ 2nd best hand to get a tight MP squeezed between gus & fish to fold a hand that beats both so that gus gets to SD vs. the fish HU.

this kind of play is a separator imo between a good player and a great player, but not one that is necessarily expert because it can be arrived at by deduction and not necessarily multilevel + mathematical analysis....

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I respect your opinion and I'm not jumping on the bash bandwagon here, I just don't think that play is as advanced as you say it is for one reason. I do it myself. I'd guess many others on here do it also. Therefore, I can guarantee you, it's a pretty good move but not near expert.

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plays like checkraising the turn OOP w/ 2nd best hand to get a tight MP squeezed between gus & fish to fold a hand that beats both so that gus gets to SD vs. the fish HU.

this kind of play is a separator imo between a good player and a great player, but not one that is necessarily expert because it can be arrived at by deduction and not necessarily multilevel + mathematical analysis....

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I respect your opinion and I'm not jumping on the bash bandwagon here, I just don't think that play is as advanced as you say it is for one reason. I do it myself. I'd guess many others on here do it also. Therefore, I can guarantee you, it's a pretty good move but not near expert.

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just because people tend to be hard on themselves (you in this case, but we all are in general) doesn't make the play any less good. using your opinion of your lack of expert level play to argue that a play you do must be nonexpert is fallacious, logically speaking.

its a very good play and to see somebody who ive also seen play like an idiot do it while also playing controleld good poker makes me say he plays good, at times. the play itself is near expert because of the thinking involved. i understand you dont agree but you provided no reasoning behind dropping the clasification of the play.

Barron