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Old 08-04-2005, 05:16 PM
tbach24 tbach24 is offline
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I agree completely with Phoenix. Amazing breakdown.
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:27 PM
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Shooting 33% from three is the equivalent to shooting 50% from two, so they can at least be effective three point shooters. Upper thirties makes you one of the best.

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Wrong and wrong.

Two point shots are much more likely to draw fouls. The myth that 3-pointers result in more offensive rebounds is false. The best 3 point shooters are usually in the 40+ range.
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Old 08-05-2005, 02:25 AM
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I would not be surprised to see Williams shoot almost 40% from three this year. See the jump in Jones's 3 pt% last year.

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I'll bet literally any amount of money I can come up with that neither Walker nor Williams finish above 40.0% from 3pt this year.
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Old 08-05-2005, 12:17 PM
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I would not be surprised to see Williams shoot almost 40% from three this year. See the jump in Jones's 3 pt% last year.

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I'll bet literally any amount of money I can come up with that neither Walker nor Williams finish above 40.0% from 3pt this year.

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Did I say either one would?
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Old 08-05-2005, 12:57 PM
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"I'll bet literally any amount of money I can come up with . . ."

Where are Gabe and Rick when you need them?
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Old 08-05-2005, 04:01 PM
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Shooting 33% from three is the equivalent to shooting 50% from two, so they can at least be effective three point shooters. Upper thirties makes you one of the best.

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Wrong and wrong.

Two point shots are much more likely to draw fouls. The myth that 3-pointers result in more offensive rebounds is false. The best 3 point shooters are usually in the 40+ range.

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Ok, true, two point shots are more likely to result in fouls, and unless you're Shaq, then you're going to shoot better than 50% from the line. I didn't include that. So shooting 33% isn't the same as shooting 50% from two in terms of effectiveness. But most players don't shoot 50% from two. Teams don't shoot 50% from the field.

These lines result in the same amount of points:

10-30 (all three pointers) = 30 pts
11-25 (44%, all twos), 8-10 (FT) = 30 pts

So I think I can at least say that whether or not 33% three point shooting is "effective" depends on your alternatives when taking those shots. I do agree, it isn't great though.

We were talking about career three point percentages though, not single season. Upper thirties definitely makes you one of the best.
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