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Old 07-22-2005, 02:45 PM
bottomset bottomset is offline
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Default Re: An exercise in note taking

I was just about to jump in on the defense

yes its a little thin, but its not horrid, the game is 7handed, hero is openraising from MP and prob has a pretty broad range(I'm raising a fair amount of stuff here), if it was an open from the CO, I'd def. be calling with 65s, maybe 54s .. or if there was a caller then this isn't soo bad either, autocall with 2callers here with 43s


his flop and turn play is good

his river bluff isn't as bad as made out to be, I think it succeeds about 1/6 right about where it needs to

all in all I don't think villian played his hand too badly
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: An exercise in note taking

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his river bluff isn't as bad as made out to be, I think it succeeds about 1/6 right about where it needs to

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And the 5 times it doesn't work, it helps his metagame. I mean, a lot of the replies in this thread have made the villain out to be a moron, when really, this whole hand was played fairly well.
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: An exercise in note taking

Great idea!

I would write something like:

- Doesn´t use free card play with flush draw.
- Bluffs river on semi-scary board.
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Old 07-22-2005, 03:05 PM
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Doesn´t use free card play with flush draw

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uh villian is OOP free card plays rarely work when OOP
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Old 07-22-2005, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: An exercise in note taking

*Grunch*
donkbets river scarecards
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Old 07-22-2005, 03:46 PM
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Doesn´t use free card play with flush draw

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uh villian is OOP free card plays rarely work when OOP

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Of course. Your right.
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Old 07-22-2005, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: An exercise in note taking

Loose,fishy,is capable of bluffing river when he misses his draws
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Old 07-22-2005, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: An exercise in note taking

I don't like the second part... I don't want to have to read the board to understand my note on him. I'd rather put something like "Bluff-bet double-paired river w/ missed FD"

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Defend BB w/43s HU
- Can bluff (K7272 river bluff)

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Old 07-22-2005, 04:28 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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I don't like the second part... I don't want to have to read the board to understand my note on him. I'd rather put something like "Bluff-bet double-paired river w/ missed FD"

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Defend BB w/43s HU
- Can bluff (K7272 river bluff)

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The reason I like to put the board there is that it helps me to remember the hand. For whatever reason, seeing the board brings more memories to mind.

My actual notes are a bit more detailed. For this hand, it would read:

Bluffer??
- C BB HU w/43s, K-C K72d, K-C 7 t, bluff 2 r - lost to 99

By being able to replay the hand completely, I can recall other details, such as what I think of him and some circumstances surrounding the game at the time of the hand. I don't mind spending the extra time to type it in, and I don't mind taking the extra time to read through and recall these things because I only play one table at a time. There's no reason for me to make rushed decisions.

If I see more bluffs from him, I remove the question marks and add the bluffing situations below. It becomes something like

Bluffer
- C BB HU w/43s, K-C K72d, K-C 7 t, bluff 2 r
- L MP w/97o, B AKQ f, B A t, B T r - lost to K8o
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Old 07-22-2005, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: An exercise in note taking

Other people have already defended me (awww, thanks guys), but I think that the bluff on the river has a fair chance of working. His action the whole way looks like he could be calling down with bottom pair, so isn't it a reasonable assumption that he might have that deuce? He only has to get the hero to fold something like one time in 5, and it's a super-easy fold to a reraise (for him).

So preflop is definitely shaky, but after that he had odds to chase his flush draw, and made a decent bluff on a scary river card.
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