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Old 07-21-2005, 03:57 PM
Unarmed Unarmed is offline
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Default Re: $215s - Controversial AQ Hand

If Villain is real solid I don't mind that line at all. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-21-2005, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: $215s - Controversial AQ Hand

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I would check the flop, and I would fold to the 90 chip bet on the turn.

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I'm sorry this has to be wrong.

He's in the SMALL BLIND. No one has shown any strength on the flop. He could have SO many hands you beat EVEN IF he's real solid.
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: $215s - Controversial AQ Hand

I don't even feel like explaining this hand, but that's almost surely what I'd do.

If the turn bet came from someone in a different position (ie without 4 more players to act after me, I'd call more often).

Also please note that if the SB is solid (aka the SB is me), there is zero and I mean ZERO chance your AQ is any good on the turn. Of course not everyone is that solid, but still he's betting into 6 opponents from the SB and could basically have any type of 2 pair or straight or whatever.

I feel like betting the flop makes the hand impossible to play also...everything about it is ugly in a sit and go format.
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:03 PM
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Also please note that if the SB is solid (aka the SB is me), there is zero and I mean ZERO chance your AQ is any good on the turn.

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Stop biting my posts [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:05 PM
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Also please note that if the SB is solid (aka the SB is me), there is zero and I mean ZERO chance your AQ is any good on the turn.

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What if you had a hand like Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and you missed a flop c/r?

Edit: or better yet Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] so you have a gutshot to go with your top pair.
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: $215s - Controversial AQ Hand

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I would check the flop, and I would fold to the 90 chip bet on the turn.

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I'm sorry this has to be wrong.

He's in the SMALL BLIND. No one has shown any strength on the flop. He could have SO many hands you beat EVEN IF he's real solid.

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I'm sorry but I need a big hand to bet into 6 PartyPoker players on a turn of Q975 with 2 spades. Im not betting here with Q4o.
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:05 PM
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Ok but please note that Im embarrassed everytime I do this when I flop a good top pair type of hand into a big field in a sit and go.

I would check the flop, and I would fold to the 90 chip bet on the turn.

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can you hunt through your hh's and find an example of this? i can't believe you would do this.

but i was also floored when the cogniscenti (sp?) liked sklansky's line of check-folding the flop with AA in a 7-way unraised pot and non-scary board. maybe i'm not putting enough weight on the idea that with 6 villains, somebody's got 2 pair.
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:07 PM
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It's not a common occurance but I've definitely done things similar to this. However it's pretty rare that it comes up.

I posted a similar hand about a week ago where I had AQo on the button, but okay that was a bit different in many respects, especially since I didn't fold [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:08 PM
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AA in a 7-way unraised pot

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How did this manage to occur?
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: $215s - Controversial AQ Hand

Well, I only play 55s but... In this spot I will raise AQ and AJ PF, and bet this flop on lvl 1, but I am more careful at level 2. Reason being I can afford to make this PF raise, flop bet and fold if its obvious I'm beat (which would take a LOT of action to make me think that), and it doesnt hurt my stack too much. In level 2 this can cost you quite a bit more to mess up playing a hand like this OOP. This really applies more to having AQ and flopping an A more then flopping the Q. Am I off on this? I just think that even though the blinds are low in lvl 1 & 2 you really do have more room for error.
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