Karl Rove is going to jail...if he's lucky - Page 4

canis582 · #31 07-06-2005, 10:29 AM

You all think he is so smart and he won't get caught.

Arrogance breeds laziness. I am a great example

tylerdurden · #32 07-06-2005, 10:55 AM

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But Karl Rove has been named by some bozo who probably doesn't know what he's talking about as the man who leaked the name of a covert CIA operative to Robert Novak for political gain.

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FYP. Lawrence O'Donnell is a moron. He's just in it to generate publicity for himself.

Do you really think all of these newsguys knew Rove was the mole all along and refused to divulge it??? During the campaign? Please.

Exsubmariner · #33 07-06-2005, 11:00 AM

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#34 07-06-2005, 11:25 AM

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But Karl Rove has been named by some bozo who probably doesn't know what he's talking about as the man who leaked the name of a covert CIA operative to Robert Novak for political gain.

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FYP. Lawrence O'Donnell is a moron. He's just in it to generate publicity for himself.

Do you really think all of these newsguys knew Rove was the mole all along and refused to divulge it??? During the campaign? Please.

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Or you can look at this rationally. Reporters have, for decades, fought to maintain the anonymity of their "anonymous sources". They continue to do so in the face of a Supreme Court decision requiring that they disclose the information.

To think that they would blow the cover of such a source -- be it Karl Rove or anyone else -- for any reason, political or otherwise, is ridiculous.

While you're at it, though, why don't you share with us with what you know that supports your conclusory statements that Mr. O'Donnell is a "moron", and that he's "in it to generate publicity for himself".

bobman0330 · #35 07-06-2005, 11:47 AM

Treason seems like a bit of a stretch for what he did, don't you think? Is Robert Novak "the enemy" these days?

Sponger15SB · #36 07-06-2005, 11:53 AM

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But Karl Rove has been named as the man who leaked the name of a covert CIA operative to Robert Novak for political gain.

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Did anyone read this and think: Duh?

I thought that when this story first came out about the leak everyone "knew" who leaked it.

tylerdurden · #37 07-06-2005, 12:19 PM

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But Karl Rove has been named by some bozo who probably doesn't know what he's talking about as the man who leaked the name of a covert CIA operative to Robert Novak for political gain.

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FYP. Lawrence O'Donnell is a moron. He's just in it to generate publicity for himself.

Do you really think all of these newsguys knew Rove was the mole all along and refused to divulge it??? During the campaign? Please.

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Or you can look at this rationally. Reporters have, for decades, fought to maintain the anonymity of their "anonymous sources". They continue to do so in the face of a Supreme Court decision requiring that they disclose the information.

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That position is somewhat justifiable in "whistleblower" cases. This isn't a whistleblower case, though. The person who "leaked" the info wasn't letting the reporters know about some wrongdoing, the act of telling the reporter Wilson's wife's identity was the wrongdoing itself (I use the word "wrongdoing" instead of "crime" intentionally, since the identity of the leaker may determine if this is or is not a crime). Why, in this case, does the leaker deserve anonymity?

If Rove leaked to someone else and then that someone told the reporters, why wouldn't they name Rove while still protecting their source?

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To think that they would blow the cover of such a source -- be it Karl Rove or anyone else -- for any reason, political or otherwise, is ridiculous.

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Really? Why?

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While you're at it, though, why don't you share with us with what you know that supports your conclusory statements that Mr. O'Donnell is a "moron", and that he's "in it to generate publicity for himself".

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He's a pundit. Pundits routinely come up with wild ideas. They always present them as fact. That's how you survive in that business. O'Donnell specifically is (in)famous for his guarantee that Kerry would win all of the swing states. Good call.

canis582 · #38 07-06-2005, 01:02 PM

"Crazy Legs" Ann Coulter would be proud of your shrill name calling.

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But Karl Rove has been named by some bozo who probably doesn't know what he's talking about as the man who leaked the name of a covert CIA operative to Robert Novak for political gain.

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FYP. Lawrence O'Donnell is a moron. He's just in it to generate publicity for himself.

Do you really think all of these newsguys knew Rove was the mole all along and refused to divulge it??? During the campaign? Please.

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tylerdurden · #39 07-06-2005, 01:10 PM

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"Crazy Legs" Ann Coulter would be proud of your shrill name calling.

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Whatever. She's a moron, too. I guess anyone who doesn't think Karl Rove is the culprit is an administration stooge in your book.

whiskeytown · #40 07-06-2005, 01:34 PM

surprisingly, there are laws about libel and journalistic integrity still out there - Unlike the Drudge Report, some real journalists prefer not to base an entire story on "well, my cousin's barber heard...blah blah blah."

Karl has been the most likely culprit - this is the guy who said outing her was fair game, even if it was illegal - he had the access, he has the morals (or lack thereof) and he has a history of inappropriate campaign/election tactics -

SO, did he do it? - Time will tell - will he get nailed by the Grand Jury? - Maybe - will he be pardoned in a last act of kindness by GWB - hell yah....

The best part will be him trying to weasal out of it - you don't get 5th amendment protections in a Grand Jury - it'll be an issue of what he said vs. the notes of the reporters - and luckily, we have him on record saying that outing her was a good idea and fair game, so there's intent on the record even if he has a memory lapse later on the stand...

been waiting a long time to see the scalywag go down - this'll be fun..

RB