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Old 07-05-2005, 03:17 AM
Ulysses Ulysses is offline
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So I think your river bet is fine. I hope the old man called with his JT/J9.

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I'd rather he fold those hands.

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what a useless post.

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Thanks for your useful contribution, though, Tyler.
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Old 07-05-2005, 05:53 AM
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Default Re: QJo 20-40

Hi Mike,

I think you should take the free card on the turn, as you have little hope of either having the best hand or getting the others to fold.

Having played it the way you did and getting that river, your bet has a decent chance of folding the old man, but what about the last guy? He'll be closing the action for 1 bet with at least a pair in a big pot. Is he really very likely to fold a jack? Your river bet hinges entirely on your answer to this question.

edit: I just realized that you gain if you get a J to fold, but, even having now seen this, I'd say the risk is significant, so you must have some hope of getting them both to fold to make the bet.

Good luck.
Eric
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:02 AM
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no tying or better hand will fold.

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This is classic "they know what I have" thinking. If you look at the action again though, you'll see that anyone holding JT must know that they are tying AT BEST on the river. With the ace hitting, the flush completing, calling for half or even 1/3rd of the pot doesn't look too appealing to the old man. This is the same old man who seemed highly unsure of his hand just two streets ago, before the ultimate scare card hit. He may very well fold a jack.

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Eric
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:04 AM
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lol. nice result. At the risk of being labeled results-oriented, I think there are a ton of ways that you can save yourself 1/6 of the pot by betting, and not all that many ways you can be behind. It looks like they both have a jack, and they can't possibly both call. I like the bet. Very imaginative.

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Old 07-05-2005, 08:40 AM
Tyler Durden Tyler Durden is offline
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Default Re: QJo 20-40

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So I think your river bet is fine. I hope the old man called with his JT/J9.

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I'd rather he fold those hands.

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what a useless post.

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Thanks for your useful contribution, though, Tyler.

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Anytime chachi.
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Old 07-05-2005, 10:18 AM
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So I think your river bet is fine. I hope the old man called with his JT/J9.

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it would be a spilt pot


i would probably check be hind because im a pussy, but i think that the bet may old out a jack which could cause a split pot

cheers
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Old 07-05-2005, 11:26 AM
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Default You really want second rate advice and insulting responses? (n/m)

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Old 07-05-2005, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: QJo 20-40

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So I think your river bet is fine. I hope the old man called with his JT/J9.

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I'd rather he fold those hands.

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what a useless post.

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You are kidding right? It's clear that El D, responded to the orginal poster so that he may see something more clearly. Or, do you not see it?
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Old 07-05-2005, 03:15 PM
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hi teddy

betting the river is not good.

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big moment for me...... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 07-05-2005, 03:39 PM
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hi teddy

betting the river is not good.

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Is it great?
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