Flag Burning Amendment is Moving Forward

[bholdr]

Felix, please stop making posts that have no purpose other than to attack opposing political parties based purely on the actions of the lunitic firnge.

If i were to make a post asking people which party they thought that the Klan votes for, what do you think thhey would say? would they be right?

yes; but the post would still be unfair, dishonest, rude, and far beneath the great majority of the rational posters on this forum (not YOU, of course, you're crawling in the gutters of political discourse, and handily dragging everyone else down to the pits with you with asinine, pointless, hopeless, jerkoff posts like this one).

get a life.

[andyfox]

"Was it not the DEMOCRAT John F. Kennedy that got the USA into Vietnam. Was it not the DEMOCRAT LBJ that use the Gulf on Tonkin incident as an excuse to flood US troops into Vietnam? Was it not the REPUBLICAN, Richard Nixon that withdrew US troops from Vietnam?'

-We've been over this ground before, but: No, it was Truman who initially got us into Vietnam, Eisenhower who contributed to the mess-up by allowing the Geneva accords to be sabotaged, Kennedy who balled things up further by committing us to the thugs who were running South Vietnam, Johnson who, as I pointed out, lied and killed, and Nixon who prolonged the war for no reason and then accepted the same peace terms that were on the table in 1968 when he sabotaged the peace talks.

But I think we're probably in agreement, there's more than enough blame to go around for the Vietnam fiasco in both political parties.

"I spoke of Kerry's lies and his less-than-patriotic (love of country) actions and you try to change the topic to Nixon."

-I'm not changing the argument to Nixon. I'm saying if Kerry did something wrong, it pales besides the massive crimes of Johnson and Nixon.

"By the way, LBJ was a democrat. You know this...right?"

If you mean a Democrat, yes I know this. In fact, in many ways he was the Democrat of his time. Senate majority leader, vice president (without whom Kennedy does not win), president.

"I vaguely remember some story about this. Who was it?"

-Senator John Cornyn (R-TX). He said, "I don’t know if there is a cause-and-effect connection but we have seen some recent episodes of courthouse violence in this country. Certainly nothing new, but we seem to have run through a spate of courthouse violence recently that’s been on the news and I wonder whether there may be some connection between the perception in some quarters on some occasions where judges are making political decisions yet are unaccountable to the public, that it builds up and builds up and builds up to the point where some people engage in - engage in violence."

Yes, only one Republican senator.

"But what you fail to understand is people like ME have freedom of speech as well. So I am free to criticize Democratic leaders. I am free to say Democrats like Durbin care more about scoring political points against Bush than care about saying things that will embolden the Islamic-fascists. In another post you called me a "false patriot". I feel no need to defend myself. I find the allegation rather silly. On the other hand, the defensesiveness that the Democrats display when their patriotism questioned is revealing."

-Of course you have freedom of speech. I never called you a "false patriot." Where did I do that? It is you who are questioning the patriotism of the Democrats. Karl Rove did it today too. It is your right to do so. I'm making an argument that you're wrong.

[kurto]

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Are you so far to the right that even moderates seem close-minded to you?


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Have you been reading his posts? He's been talking about Democrats are Self Hating Americans, how Republicans are more patriotic then Democrats, etc.

He's another "100% biased platitudes" poster. The world is black and white/good vs bad/Republicans Good vs Democrats bad kind of guy.

[ptmusic]

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Are you so far to the right that even moderates seem close-minded to you?


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Have you been reading his posts? He's been talking about Democrats are Self Hating Americans, how Republicans are more patriotic then Democrats, etc.

He's another "100% biased platitudes" poster. The world is black and white/good vs bad/Republicans Good vs Democrats bad kind of guy.

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Yeah, I've been reading his posts. I'm new to this political forum, but I've already read a bunch of his posts, and he nearly always manages to shock me into laughter.

Sometimes I think he MUST be f'ing with us!

-ptmusic

[kurto]

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Sometimes I think he MUST be f'ing with us!


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Yeah. There's a lot of people like that. There are people who have totally different views then I do, but who don't seem like they're way out there. Natedogg and I seem to disagree a lot but I've never found myself thinking he's just some partisan nut. He has strong views that he has a philosophy that at least has a basis for them.

Then there are people like the dude who labeled all democrats as lazy, 'faggots', nambla members, aethists (ie- bad), socialists, etc... then gets uppity when people dismiss him.

I can never tell for sure how many of those people are sincere or if they're just trying to elicit a reaction.

[masse75]

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Flag burners may love their country more then the Republicans.

Mmmmmmm......So when a man beats his wife it may be because he loves TOO much. OK, you just persuaded me. You are right. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Bad analogy. By your analogy, the flag=the country.

[Zoelef]

So if I burn the Confederate flag, does that mean I hate America?

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So if I burn the Confederate flag, does that mean I hate America?

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It means you hate South Carolina.

Or grits.

[Cyrus]

If the American flag is to be protected by the United States Constitution as a sacred symbol, then why should the Coca Cola symbol or the Nike symbol be left unprotected ?

[slamdunkpro]

They already are - unfair or distorted display can be remided by a copywrite or trademark lawsuit brought be the owner Coke has done this over and over. If I burn the Coke logo in public they can sue me for unauthorized public use of a trademark.

But the Constitution should not be amended for this.(burning the Flag)