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#31
06-02-2005, 03:45 PM
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Re: Why I switched to Party
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Um. 4 people picked fold on the poll. I read one response that actually said fold, and he was obviously kidding. I have no idea what you are talking about. [/ QUOTE ] There were a few genuine responses from high level players who advocated folding. I think we all stand corrected. [/ QUOTE ] High-level players are facing better competition. Folding JJ UTG is silly at a table full of monkeys. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. I'm just saying, he said "some people fold JJ here" we said "no. you're silly." he said "here's a link" I said "touche" [/ QUOTE ] wrong. he said "here's a link" we said. "you're still silly." you said. "maybe he's silly, but he's right." i said, "oh yeah? well let me to try to justify my statement which is really just a coverup for how wrong i was." 
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#32
06-02-2005, 03:46 PM
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Re: Why I switched to Party
Hey, I think it sucks too. I play my jacks and I don't fold the 5s.
All I know is that this forum is insanely weak-tight in the early rounds of SNGs and I am surprised that this seems to have reversed itself, in this thread at least.
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#33
06-02-2005, 03:50 PM
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Re: Why I switched to Party
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Um. 4 people picked fold on the poll. I read one response that actually said fold, and he was obviously kidding. I have no idea what you are talking about. [/ QUOTE ] There were a few genuine responses from high level players who advocated folding. I think we all stand corrected. [/ QUOTE ] High-level players are facing better competition. Folding JJ UTG is silly at a table full of monkeys. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. I'm just saying, he said "some people fold JJ here" we said "no. you're silly." he said "here's a link" I said "touche" [/ QUOTE ] wrong. he said "here's a link" we said. "you're still silly." you said. "maybe he's silly, but he's right." i said, "oh yeah? well let me to try to justify my statement which is really just a coverup for how wrong i was." [/ QUOTE ] touche
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#34
06-02-2005, 03:57 PM
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Re: Why I switched to Party
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All I know is that this forum is insanely weak-tight in the early rounds of SNGs and I am surprised that this seems to have reversed itself, in this thread at least. [/ QUOTE ] You play at UB, most of them play at Party. While I tend to agree with your assessment, I think it makes a pretty big difference.
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#36
06-02-2005, 03:59 PM
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Re: Why I switched to Party
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There were a few genuine responses from high level players who advocated folding. I think we all stand corrected. [/ QUOTE ] Umm, no we don't. NYCNative made these statements: "You will get a lot of "Fold Preflop" responses." "Many people here advocated folding Jacks in EP early in a Party SNG" "Not ALL people said to fold them, but enough did" "And many of the limpers would fold to a raise too, which is still a "Fold Preflop."" When I read the link, I think he is vastly distorting the responses to suit his contention that 2+2 posters are a bunch of weak-tight pansies. I read the responses in the JJ UTG thread. I read the responses in the 55 UTG thread. I think they are very consistent. Anyone who thinks that 2+2 posters would advocate folding 55 in this situation (especially the second call preflop) doesn't understand basic 2+2 strategy.
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#38
06-02-2005, 04:27 PM
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[ QUOTE ] I would like a link to the topic where that is said. [/ QUOTE ] Here you go Not ALL people said to fold them, but enough did... And I can't see those people any more thrilled with 5s. [/ QUOTE ] Four out of over 200 voted fold and somehow you turned that into the forum line with JJ? Chances are they were just randomly voting to see the results.
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#40
06-02-2005, 04:34 PM
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Re: Why I switched to Party
I don't mind the call PF...figure you can close betting wiht the call.(no chance at someone between you pushing all in, everyone runs for the hills, and the raiser gets a free 200 chips). You already limped with 15 and closing it for the CHANCE to hit the set sometimes is worth it. Especially this early in the tournament.
I recently posted a thread about loosening up in level 1 and 2, just for the chance to get paid off: obviously this is a textbook case of paying a bit more to see the flop and ba bam, look what it got you. If you were in a different position, with even one limper behind you already, I'd consider folding. Since you can close betting, I like the call.
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