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  #31  
Old 05-08-2005, 10:04 PM
1C5 1C5 is offline
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I would love for you to explain your thinking in this hand. I was watching and the thing that sticks out is how you would check lightning quick and then always call his bets. Great hand by you.

#Game No : 2015239491
***** Hand History for Game 2015239491 *****
NL Hold'em $15000 Buy-in + $500 Entry Fee Trny:12010061 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Saturday, May 07, 22:14:11 EDT 2005
Table Step Higher 5 #1014153 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: cbristow ( $1150 )
Seat 2: seepspp ( $1115 )
Seat 3: baxlog ( $990 )
Seat 4: dj_dedrick ( $840 )
Seat 5: genoa_st ( $1210 )
Seat 6: sjnjb ( $880 )
Seat 7: Evenkeal ( $1315 )
Seat 9: scoots_mc ( $1615 )
Seat 10: XLhomestead ( $885 )
Trny:12010061 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Evenkeal [ 9d 4d ]
scoots_mc folds.
XLhomestead folds.
cbristow raises [100].
seepspp folds.
baxlog folds.
dj_dedrick folds.
genoa_st folds.
sjnjb folds.
Evenkeal calls [50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, Qd, 3h ]
Evenkeal checks.
cbristow bets [50].
Evenkeal calls [50].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
Evenkeal checks.
cbristow bets [50].
Evenkeal calls [50].
** Dealing River ** [ Qc ]
Evenkeal bets [150].
cbristow folds.
Evenkeal does not show cards.
Evenkeal wins 575 chips
Game #2015243206 starts.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:05 PM
Voltron87 Voltron87 is offline
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Default Re: Gigabet\'s HH and our SnG Strategy

when I play NL cash games, there are a lot of times when I will cold call or raise to isolate a player (in position) who I know is weak, or when I know what he has from his raise from how he has raised in the past, but I don't do this in SNGs. that is the basic point. you do.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:07 PM
1C5 1C5 is offline
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Default H6

Why take a risk like this?

#Game No : 2015276587
***** Hand History for Game 2015276587 *****
NL Hold'em $15000 Buy-in + $500 Entry Fee Trny:12010061 Level:5 Blinds(100/200) - Saturday, May 07, 22:21:45 EDT 2005
Table Step Higher 5 #1014153 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: cbristow ( $800 )
Seat 2: seepspp ( $1190 )
Seat 4: dj_dedrick ( $1170 )
Seat 5: genoa_st ( $1970 )
Seat 6: sjnjb ( $855 )
Seat 7: Evenkeal ( $1465 )
Seat 9: scoots_mc ( $1765 )
Seat 10: XLhomestead ( $785 )
Trny:12010061 Level:5
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Evenkeal [ 8d Qd ]
sjnjb folds.
Evenkeal is all-In [1465]
scoots_mc folds.
XLhomestead folds.
cbristow folds.
seepspp folds.
dj_dedrick folds.
genoa_st folds.
Evenkeal does not show cards.
Evenkeal wins 1765 chips
Game #2015278421 starts.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:11 PM
Gigabet Gigabet is offline
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Default Re: Gigabet\'s HH and our SnG Strategy

I wondered if anyone would ask about this hand. I made this raise here, hoping that I would get a call from XLS. My original intention was to advertise here, because I knew that there would most likely be a point later in the game where it would be the difference between me winning or getting crippled based on how well I can take XLS' blind. Because I am in a steal spot, i know that XLS will probably defend too much, and I don't want that. So I was hoping for a flop, and i was going to play the hand very weak, ck and fold kind of weak, so hopefully later in the game, XLS would be more inclined to trust me when I play back at him.

BTW, there is no way that I would ever let this hand get shown unless I flop the nuts, or near nuts, and xls is willing to put his whole stack in with me.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:21 PM
Gigabet Gigabet is offline
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Default Re: Gigabet\'s HH and our SnG Strategy

This hand was a message to dj_dedrick and the whole table. I was here to play, and was going to play with my whole stack when I do play, so you better have something that can hold up if you are raising and I haven't acted yet(anyone notice how often I got a walk in the BB). I think this was only the second or third hand of the tourney, so this was their first impression of me, and I think the message worked was received as intended.

The raise is a standard play by me whether I have a hand or not, if I am calling a raise, and you don't know me, then I am playing the hand, regardless of what hits the board.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:23 PM
Gigabet Gigabet is offline
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Default Re: H5

I wanted to see what the hell he kept min raising with.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: H5

[ QUOTE ]
I wanted to see what the hell he kept min raising with.

[/ QUOTE ]

You play this tournament by itself, or where you multitabling?

And if you were multitabling, what race of alien are you?
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:28 PM
Gigabet Gigabet is offline
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Default Re: H6

[ QUOTE ]
Why take a risk like this?

[/ QUOTE ]

Because 1st pays so top heavy, I was willing to raise any stack that that looked "safe" I know that Genoa isn't calling my raise from such an ep without at least JJ-AA or AK.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:38 PM
Phil Van Sexton Phil Van Sexton is offline
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Default Re: Gigabet\'s HH and our SnG Strategy

This hand is most interesting to me, by far. I think I understand your thinking, and this is clearly a play that has been lacking in my game. Care to elaborate?



#Game No : 2015236933
***** Hand History for Game 2015236933 *****
NL Hold'em $15000 Buy-in + $500 Entry Fee Trny:12010061 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Saturday, May 07, 22:13:39 EDT 2005
Table Step Higher 5 #1014153 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: cbristow ( $1150 )
Seat 2: seepspp ( $1115 )
Seat 3: baxlog ( $990 )
Seat 4: dj_dedrick ( $840 )
Seat 5: genoa_st ( $1235 )
Seat 6: sjnjb ( $930 )
Seat 7: Evenkeal ( $1240 )
Seat 9: scoots_mc ( $1615 )
Seat 10: XLhomestead ( $885 )
Trny:12010061 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Evenkeal [ Kh Qc ]
Evenkeal raises [125].
scoots_mc folds.
XLhomestead folds.
cbristow folds.
seepspp folds.
baxlog folds.
dj_dedrick folds.
genoa_st folds.
sjnjb folds.
Evenkeal does not show cards.
Evenkeal wins 200 chips
Game #2015239491 starts.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:38 PM
EverettKings EverettKings is offline
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Default Re: Gigabet\'s HH and our SnG Strategy

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so hopefully later in the game, XLS would be more inclined to trust me when I play back at him.


[/ QUOTE ]

Wouldn't it be more the case that he plays back at you, given positions? And wouldn't this line of raise-then-run-away encourage him to stand up to you, defeating this purpose:

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Because I am in a steal spot, i know that XLS will probably defend too much, and I don't want that.

[/ QUOTE ]
?

I likely just didn't understand you quite right.


-Kings
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