Why so much tipping?

[toots]

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Why doesn't the casino pay the dealers more instead of forcing the players into tipping?

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Don't know, but the fact is that they don't. I'd be happy to entertain the question, and in fact, I'm sure you could make a reasonable argument that the casinos should be paying the dealers well, instead of relying on the players to tip.

But that argument doesn't change the reality of the situation one whit. They don't pay the dealers, and the only way the dealer's going to make a living wage is by collecting tokes. That's just the way it is, and you aren't going to fix that by failing to pay the dealer their due share.

All you're going to do is deprive a dealer of some income and come off as an excuse-free douchebag.

If you've got a complaint with the way the money flow works, take it out on the casino, not the dealer. He probably has the least control over these issues of anyone.

[goodguy_1]

I thought ASU banned Fiji's forever?They banned Fiji's first then ThetaDelts-this was way back in late 1980's.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

You're alright man!

BTW I tip constantly when playing anything, blackjack, craps, paigow, old maid, canasta, pinochle, candy land, eels and escalators....

Seriously, when I am out playing, particularly when Photoc an' nem and me go out gamblin' and drinkin', we tip a lot, AND WE ALWAYS GET TREATED LIKE FRIGGIN' KINGS. Many times we get offered comps without asking, and virtually every time our actual play in no way warrants any kind of comp at all (from the house's monetary point of view). The pit bosses know however who the tokers are, and they usually return the favor.

Here's my fav part of your post tho...

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You funny little $2/4 ESPN & WPT wannabes. You guys kill me.


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Your profile of the non-tipping internet punks is spot on accurate.

Every single day I have to say it over and over...

IT'S 2-4, NOT THE WORLD POKER TOUR!

al

p.s. anytime you want to go gamblin' and drinkin' gimme a buzz

[tdp]

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Many times we get offered comps without asking, and virtually every time our actual play in no way warrants any kind of comp at all (from the house's monetary point of view). The pit bosses know however who the tokers are, and they usually return the favor.


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I din't even think of this.At the room I play at,I always get my meal comped even if I just sat down.You are supposed to play three hours of cash games first and I usually only play tourneys which don't count for comps.Tourney dealers around here seem to get stiffed the worst.
When I'm at a table,I look at it as the dealer is working for me,not the casino.If they do a good job I pay them well.Simple enough.

[Zoltri]

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Just friggin' tip already and don't add up how much is costs you. Consider it a necessary part of the game.

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Again, I don't why I have do defend my position on this. When I spend roughly $3000 a year tipping dealers I have to ask myself if this over the top. If I played once a month I wouldn't have posted the topic.

Part of the game? I can think of 3000 reasons its not.

[toots]

Ok, so the casino

A) Decides to pay the dealers well enough that they don't need tokes

B) Raise the rake enough so that nearly every pot has a dollar more rake than they did yesterday.

All better now?

[JoeC]

Actually, yes... do you see why?

[Al_Capone_Junior]

You brought it up, why did you think you wouldn't have to defend your position here?

Even very tight, very money conscious players tip, and do quite well, even with their tipping. So if you have to defend yourself after posting a "I think I'll try to rationalize being a stiff" thread, then too friggin' bad for you hoss. Somebody call a whaaaaaaambulance!

al

[Pocket Trips]

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Just friggin' tip already and don't add up how much is costs you. Consider it a necessary part of the game.

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Again, I don't why I have do defend my position on this. When I spend roughly $3000 a year tipping dealers I have to ask myself if this over the top. If I played once a month I wouldn't have posted the topic.

Part of the game? I can think of 3000 reasons its not.

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ok so $3,000 a year for 3,000 pots won or if you occasionally tip $2 maybe its 2,600 pots... Even if you are playing 2/4, and the average pot is maybe a $20 profit not counting the money you put into it, that means you won an average of $60,000 in pots in one year.

You are giving up 5% of your profits for a service rendered.

The way I see it one of 2 things is happening here. Either you are taking 2/4 poker WAY TOO SERIOUSLY or if you do happen to be a higher limit player trying to either make a living at the game or add to your income and are bitching about lost profits. In which case the $1 per pot tip is probably less than 3% of your profits and you are just a tightwad in general like most of the degenerate gamblers beaten down by the swings of the game and life in general who are always berating younger players who take "their" pots. Do you also blame the dealer for your bad beats?

If you are playing 2/4 you have NO RIGHT to be bitching about how the tokes are eating into your profits because you should not be playing 2/4 expecting to make a serious profit from it. 2/4 Is for social players who are either just there to have fun or to learn the game before moving up. If you are trying to make money playing poker move up to a limit where the rake and tokes are not such a high percentage of the pot or stop bitching...

If the second scenario describes you better there is an easy solution..... it is 1-800-GAMBLER

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[junkmail3]

The better you tip, the better cards you get. There are pleny of posts in this forum to back that up.