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Old 03-27-2005, 02:16 AM
BoxTree BoxTree is offline
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Default Re: SSNL Starting Hands for 10-max Cash Game - First major revision

Just a question on your notation:

"Raised pot: Call small raise (loose)
Reraise 2xraise (tight)"

Does loose/tight refer to the table or the raiser?
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Old 03-27-2005, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: SSNL Starting Hands for 10-max Cash Game - First major revision

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Just a question on your notation:

"Raised pot: Call small raise (loose)
Reraise 2xraise (tight)"

Does loose/tight refer to the table or the raiser?

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It refers to the table. If a table is tight, a re-raise with JJ/TT/AKs/AQs/AKo/AQo will probably get you heads up, if it doesn't take down the pot right there. Now if you are only going to get heads up with a rock, just call the small raise and let the other limpers in. Most the time, I am raising on a tight table (middle/late positions), though. This way I have a better chance of knowing where I am in the hand.

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Old 04-11-2005, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: SSNL Starting Hands for 10-max Cash Game - First major revision

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Suited Connectors QJs to 65s


Early/Middle
First in/limpers: Limp if very passive table, else fold.


Late
First in: Limp
Call only small raises behind if 4 or more in pot.
Limpers before: Also limp.
Raised pot: Call any small raise if 4 or more in pot. Fold to any all-in


SB/BB
First in/limpers: Limp in BB, fold in SB.
Raised pot: Fold.


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no way in hell am i not completing from the SB with a suited connector.

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Axs / Suited 1 and 2 gappers down to J8s / AJo / ATo / KQo / KJo / QJo / JTo

Late Only
First in: Limp only.
Limpers before: Also limp.

SB/BB
First in/limpers: Limp in BB, fold in SB.
Raised pot: Fold.

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I'm raising in an unopened pot from CO or button with AJo, KQo... these are strong hands 3 or 4 handed with position. And i'm definately completing the SB with these two as well.
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Old 04-12-2005, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: SSNL Starting Hands for 10-max Cash Game - First major revision

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JJ / TT / AKs / AQs / AKo / AQo

Early
First in/limpers: Limp
Raised pot: Call any small raise
Fold to any all-in


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What is the reasoning for not raising these hands in early position? I can see not raising sometimes with TT or AQo in NL, but why would you want to limpt with AK or JJ? Aren't these hands too strong to simply limp with? Or is the idea to just keep yourself from having to make tricky situations postflop? But then if you limp with AK it still might be hard to fold when the flop comes K high, rainbow and unconnected. Any insight would be appreciated. NL is a lot tougher to learn than limit.
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Old 04-13-2005, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: SSNL Starting Hands for 10-max Cash Game - First major revision

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JJ / TT / AKs / AQs / AKo / AQo

Early
First in/limpers: Limp
Raised pot: Call any small raise
Fold to any all-in


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What is the reasoning for not raising these hands in early position? I can see not raising sometimes with TT or AQo in NL, but why would you want to limpt with AK or JJ? Aren't these hands too strong to simply limp with? Or is the idea to just keep yourself from having to make tricky situations postflop? But then if you limp with AK it still might be hard to fold when the flop comes K high, rainbow and unconnected. Any insight would be appreciated. NL is a lot tougher to learn than limit.

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You are out of position (OOP) the rest of the hand. JJ/TT
should be fairly obvious; i.e., over 50% of the time a
A, K or Q (or combination) will flop. You are now first
to act (or one of the first). How confident are you about
your middle pair, now? As to the AK and AQ hands, you are
drawing to hit either TPTK or TPGK, which I think only hits
1/3 of the time. When it whiffs, you do not have the
position to fire a bet at the pot when checked around.
This helps you get away from a losing hand easier, because
there isn't much in the pot to fight over.

In SSNL, the biggest mistake, by far, is not
getting away from losing hands. The strategy for these
hands in EP helps you do just that. I realize that
this appears (and probably is to a degree) weak/tight;
but weak/tight is profitable on SSNL tables. Maybe
not as profitable as a TAG or good LAG, but it's better
than being a loser.

In higher limits, this doesn't hold, but I'll allow much
more qualified people address that, if you need.
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