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Old 03-17-2005, 03:00 PM
Justin A Justin A is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 hand. Comment please

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And frankly, look at your results honestly. I simply don't think that someone who plays like you do has very good results. You may be a winner, but probably just marginal, unless the game is really good.

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This is hilarious. link
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Old 03-17-2005, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 hand. Comment please

Player A probably has AJd, KK, QQ, JJ, or maybe J9s. Looks like Player B has a decent PP (66-TT) or has a high card diamond draw that might have paired up on the turn.

If I was you, I'm probably 90-95% sure I'm beat with Player B behind me. I still call this down however. You only need to win 6% of the time and I'd pray A has KK and B has TT. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 03-17-2005, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 hand. Comment please

Everybody should reread what andyfox wrote and remember it.
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Old 03-17-2005, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 hand. Comment please

I would say you are beat here more than 90% of the time but less than 100%. Not knowing the main villian leans me towards calling this particular time but I really don't like the other donk who has been calling along. He may have just hit the flush or straight himself.

There are a lot of situations where if you call the turn you should be calling the river but this isn't one of them. That Qd is about as bad as it gets. Maybe the King would be worse.

I don't think it's a big mistake either way.
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Old 03-17-2005, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 hand. Comment please

what site was this on?

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Old 03-17-2005, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 hand. Comment please

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I think especially so when an opponent shows aggression on the turn and still bets when an overcard to the board hits on the river. In my experience, that usually means a damn good hand.

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True. But it wasn't just an overcard- it was a flush card that he bet into two opponents. Not that many good players wouldn't do this with a set or straight, but a lot of players would check-call with those hands (especially given Player's B actions).

So the fact that he still bet out, plus he's unknown, could increase the odds that he's on a suicide bluff mission just enough to tip the scales in favor of a call. IMHO.
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Old 03-18-2005, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: 50/100 hand. Comment please

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Was the hand called down? Do you know what the result was?

[/ QUOTE ] Player B in CO folded river. Player A took the pot without revealing his cards.
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Old 03-18-2005, 05:52 PM
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Ok so... Why did you post this thread? If you don't doubt your laydown, why ask.

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so that n00bs like you can learn something by reading it
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Old 03-18-2005, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 hand. Comment please

I will weigh in against the river fold.

Couldn't our man play the hand the way he did with KK or AA (7 combos). You lose to JJ or QQ (6 combos) with which he could also play the hand the same way. That's better than even money that your hand is best.

Okay, so maybe you have to consider the possibility that he flopped a set or that he got frisky with a huge draw and got there. Let's be extremely generous and say that there is a 40% chance of that leaving you with a 10% chance of winning. Given pot odds, it's an easy call.

I also don't understand why you say that you would definitely call if the river was a blank but feel confident enough to fold on the river Qd. Are the chances of this guy having QQ or Diamonds so high as to make such a difference?
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Old 03-18-2005, 09:09 PM
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Don't discount the third player in the hand.
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