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03-10-2005, 12:05 AM
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Re: Republicans who want war, but won\'t enlist.
You finally snapped, and it makes me happy. Your snap is much funnier than mine, which resulted in a self-imposed exile from the ignorant wasteland of Politics a la 2+2.
Keep it up. Jesus would be really happy with you, and says hello. 
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03-10-2005, 12:16 AM
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Re: Republicans who want war, but won\'t enlist.
No, I'm absolutely serious. On election night I got a little bit pity-drunk and knocked off about 300 posts in eight hours. You are approaching that now, and you share an similar orientation to the morons that people this wing of the forum.
I wasn't serious about Jesus saying hi---he's actually a bit of a standoffish guy for a flaming anarcho-communist.
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#35
03-10-2005, 12:16 AM
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Re: Republicans who want war, but won\'t enlist.
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So: you're career military, a commissioned officer, and (given the timestamp on your post) you don't appear to be operating on Iraqi time right now. So, this begs the question: have you requested a transfer to duty in Iraq? If so, what was the response? And if not, why not? Do you intend to do so in the future? If so, when? And if not, why not? Also, for the record: I have several commissioned officers in my immediate family. They know as well as you do that Bush's support among the officers is FAR higher than his support among the general troop population. Of course, your average soldier doing occupation duty in Iraq right now doesn't have unfettered access to the internet, nor the time to surf poker forums trying to pump up the GOP. Funny, that. q/q [/ QUOTE ] I spent two carrier deployments flying missions in that theatre. One deployment was flying missions over Afghanistan. The other was flying missions over Iraq. I find your grilling of me rather distateful but typical of the lemming like liberal behavior I see in here so often. I think you need to go find some statistics because I dont think the support for Bush among officers is significantly higher than among enlisted personnel. At any rate, that has no applicability to this discussion. Surely you arent suggesting that because I have a commission I have no idea what the people that work for me think about politics? M already pointed out the flaw with your premise, so there isnt much more for me to say.
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03-10-2005, 12:29 AM
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Re: Republicans who want war, but won\'t enlist.
Wow. I'm a pretty caustic [censored], but I was serious. When I'm sarcastic its somehow different. That's the worst thing I have been called in a very, very long time.
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#39
03-10-2005, 01:28 AM
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Re: Republicans who want war, but won\'t enlist.
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I spent two carrier deployments flying missions in that theatre. One deployment was flying missions over Afghanistan. The other was flying missions over Iraq. I find your grilling of me rather distateful but typical of the lemming like liberal behavior I see in here so often. I think you need to go find some statistics because I dont think the support for Bush among officers is significantly higher than among enlisted personnel. At any rate, that has no applicability to this discussion. Surely you arent suggesting that because I have a commission I have no idea what the people that work for me think about politics? [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure how you arrived at the conclusion that I'm a "lemming like liberal", seeing as I'm actually an ex-Republican (which would have come up earlier, except that for all the back-and-forth here nobody has even bothered to ask). But I'll let that go for the moment, since I'm sure that all "liberals" must be "lemming-like" in that special fantasy world of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. Whatever. On to things of actual relevence. You state that you have served in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm actually glad to hear that, since it's only the second straight answer to my original question that I've gotten so far (and to your credit, you didn't claim "fallen arches"). If you find my response "distasteful", well, I guess that's just what political discourse in this country has come to. Republicans lie and dodge and do just about anything to avoid giving a straight answer to a simple question like this, and I've become very accustomed to them doing it, so I'm going to keep pushing until I get one. If that pushing seems uncivil, well, that's life. I'd prefer a more civil mode, but it's like a lawyer who's faced with a "hostile witness" : he quickly learns that civility is a luxury, whereas the pursuit of truth is not. Regardless, I still find it interesting that the only current Republican who actually has put their money where there mouth is on the Iraq issue is an ex-Dem who originally enlisted as a Dem. I just keep wondering where all the Republican enlistees are. From what I'm hearing, military recruiters are wondering that same thing, too, because just about every branch of the service is coming up short (apparantly, all those Young Republicans out there who love to scream at "evil liberals" have, coincidentally, decided that they have better things to do when it comes to military service. Shocking, I know). [ QUOTE ] M already pointed out the flaw with your premise, so there isnt much more for me to say. [/ QUOTE ] M tried to dodge the point, and apparantly has given a few other Republicans some cover-rhetoric to hide behind. But the fact remains: you can guage the sincerity of a man's words by his actions. A man who will "support a war" by sending someone else to fight it for him, but who won't step up and join in that fight himself, is a fraud. And no matter how many stickers he puts on his car, he remains a fraud nonetheless. I do not count you in this catagory, because you have put your money where your mouth is. Your Republican friends on this board, however, seem occupied with either making excuses or remaining conspicuously silent. To them, I offer no such respect. They're simply playing political fantasy-games with other people's lives. Why on earth anyone in the military would consider such people "supporters" is beyond me. q/q
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#40
03-10-2005, 01:31 AM
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Re: Republicans who want war, but won\'t enlist.
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[ QUOTE ] I spent two carrier deployments flying missions in that theatre. One deployment was flying missions over Afghanistan. The other was flying missions over Iraq. I find your grilling of me rather distateful but typical of the lemming like liberal behavior I see in here so often. I think you need to go find some statistics because I dont think the support for Bush among officers is significantly higher than among enlisted personnel. At any rate, that has no applicability to this discussion. Surely you arent suggesting that because I have a commission I have no idea what the people that work for me think about politics? [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure how you arrived at the conclusion that I'm a "lemming like liberal" [/ QUOTE ] I can't imagine. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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