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Old 12-25-2004, 12:55 PM
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gg, sure it always depends. however, in an aggressive game, as most pp 15/30 are, and in a 10 handed game, it will have a neg expectation upfront. but sure there are games that it can be played in. very few at pp, and 10 handed which was what he was discussing.
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Old 12-25-2004, 12:59 PM
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gg, sure it always depends. however, in an aggressive game, as most pp 15/30 are, and in a 10 handed game, it will have a neg expectation upfront. but sure there are games that it can be played in. very few at pp, and 10 handed which was what he was discussing.

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Did you even read Nightwish's response?
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Old 12-25-2004, 01:00 PM
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nightwish, sorry, but i know i am correct about the KQo. and i too SOMETIMES will raise with AQo. read the essay in INSIDE THE POKER MIND (a great book) about AQo. in general will you seem like like a nice guy, however i disagree with you often, and i think you are too agressive. aggressive play is correct, but it can be taken too far.
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Old 12-25-2004, 01:02 PM
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nightwish, sorry, but i know i am correct about the KQo.

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In the face of actual data. So we have data on one hand, and Amulet's intuition on the other. Hmmmmmm.
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Old 12-25-2004, 01:09 PM
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again, sure KQo is a good hand. but since this is a game of position -- very few hands show a positive ev upfront. it is often raised behind you, then you are often dominated. if it is raised and you hit, where are you? minddle position, i like it, not in a 10 person game i like it. passive game it can work. but i think many are forgetting how impt position is. i'll take it a step further AJo which is a better hand, should be dumped in a 10 person agressive game if you are upfront -- most pp 15/30 games are very aggressive. and we were discussing pp 15/30.

again the most impt thing is that very few hands have a postive expectation upfront. position, position, position,
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Old 12-25-2004, 01:10 PM
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yes
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Old 12-25-2004, 01:13 PM
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If it is really "often" raised behind me after I raise my KQ UTG, then I submit it is impossible that I am "often" dominated.
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Old 12-25-2004, 01:13 PM
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i have seen several winning players pokertracker - with over 100,000 hand. two of whom i consider among the best at 15/30 pp. i think your being a bit of a jerk here clark, insitead of contributing. i like KQo too. but if you want to play it upfront, or raise with it come join my game, i'd love you in it.
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Old 12-25-2004, 01:16 PM
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i have seen several winning players pokertracker - with over 100,000 hand. two of whom i consider among the best at 15/30 pp. i think your being a bit of a jerk here clark, insitead of contributing. i like KQo too. but if you want to play it upfront, or raise with it come join my game, i'd love you in it.

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Because I don't agree with you, I'm not contributing? [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 12-25-2004, 01:22 PM
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no, you have pokertracker? then back up nighwish's #'s. i doubt you can. merry christmas.
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