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Old 11-14-2004, 12:25 PM
A J Carisse A J Carisse is offline
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Default Re: Informal poll

The first thing you've got to ask yourself is - has he got a point here? No one plays perfectly all the time. If he's right, he's done you a favor.

Regardless though, I'd ask him what he would do in the situation. He might actually tell you, and what we'd be after here is gaining some insight on how the guy plays the game and how he thinks, to use it against him later [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Regardless though, take it all in stride. I'd never avoid someone like that, and there'd be more than a little sarcasm involved (I beat him with superior cards later than I say - did I play that right?)

These are your opponents, your enemies in fact. Who gives a hoot in the end what they think of you? Just take their money [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

A.J.
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Old 11-14-2004, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: Informal poll

One from just now. Last hand of sng.

"Dealer: yukon250 has high card Ace
Dealer: dogsballs has two pair, Sixes and Fours
Dealer: Game #856460946: dogsballs wins pot (10950) with two pair, Sixes and fours
dogsballs: gg
yukon250: ur retarded"
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Old 11-12-2004, 11:43 PM
AleoMagus AleoMagus is offline
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Default Re: Informal poll

At $11-$33, I get berated all the time.

My favorite ever was one time on the bubble when I opened from the SB with A4o. I am big stack and BB had only about 5xBB, so I put him all-in.

He calls and flips over KK. I hit my A and bust him.

He writes:

"A4.lol. That's garbage. GARBAGE. I wouldn't even CALL with A4 and this idiot is PUSHING with it."

I guess in this guy's world, it takes more of a hand to push than it does to call an all-in.

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Brad S
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Old 11-13-2004, 01:29 AM
Irieguy Irieguy is offline
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Default The reverse gap concept

My friend and I were discussing this just the other day. I noticed that late in a SNG, many players are reluctant to push because they don't want to risk going broke with a marginal hand. But when you push, they see Q-8s as a nice hand with which to double through.

It's the exact opposite of what is correct. They subscribe to the "reverse gap concept." Your example is another illustration of it.

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Old 11-13-2004, 12:10 AM
Jman28 Jman28 is offline
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Default Re: Informal poll

Yeah. Usually they laugh at me (with an 'lol' or 'haha' of course.. I can't hear them).

I've gotten, 'You're not gonna last long', 'keep playing like that, idiot', and a few heads up challenges. I love it.
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Old 11-13-2004, 12:46 AM
Benholio Benholio is offline
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Default Re: Informal poll

"You keep doing that, I'm going to call you"
"Idiot only knows how to go allin, learn to play poker"
"You know, that works everytime but once!"

I love it when they get angry from the aggressive play. It almost always breaks down the same way:

-steal 3 or 4 times, building up a good stack
-fish gets angry and vows to call you next time
-push next time, he folds anyway
-push again, he calls you with absolute crap.. that will teach you to go all-in so much!!!
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Old 11-13-2004, 07:39 AM
Jason Strasser Jason Strasser is offline
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***** Hand History for Game 1172926935 *****
200/400 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 7155997) - SAT NOV 13 04:56:38 EST 2004
Table Table 14452 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: ironman60 (2130)
Seat 5: rosieace (1050)
Seat 9: VTranMan27 (4365)
Seat 10: strassa2 (2455)
strassa2 posts small blind (100)
ironman60 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to strassa2 [ 5h, 7s ]
rosieace folds.
VTranMan27 folds.
strassa2 raises (2355) to 2455
strassa2 is all-In.
ironman60 calls (1930)
ironman60 is all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2h, 3c, Ks ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 7c ]
Creating Main Pot with $4260 with ironman60
Creating Side Pot 1 with $325 with strassa2
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4260 | Side Pot 1: 325
Board: [ 2h 3c Ks 8s 7c ]
ironman60 balance 0, lost 2130 [ Th Ah ] [ high card ace -- Ah,Ks,Th,8s,7c ]
rosieace balance 1050, didn't bet (folded)
VTranMan27 balance 4365, didn't bet (folded)
strassa2 balance 4585, bet 2455, collected 4585, net +2130 [ 5h 7s ] [ a pair of sevens -- Ks,8s,7s,7c,5h ]



How could you not call me an idiot??? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

-Jason
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Old 11-13-2004, 02:45 PM
stupidsucker stupidsucker is offline
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Default Re: Informal poll

Is this really a proper push? I think I would let this one go at the 30s. However, I wouldnt be calling with ATs if I was the BB either. At the 200s I guess you have a little more FE. Last night I pushed with 93s from the SB with high blinds 5handed. BB with a medium stack (same as me) calls with 9jo. Sometimes it feels like they can see your cards when they call with JUNK that has you dominated.
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Old 11-13-2004, 06:06 PM
Jason Strasser Jason Strasser is offline
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Default Re: Informal poll

It was borderline. There was one stack really low, and I expected this opponent to fold an ATs type hand.

-Jason
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Old 11-14-2004, 12:37 PM
A J Carisse A J Carisse is offline
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Default Re: Informal poll

LOL! I want to know though what you were thinking with going all in on the bubble with 75o. The other guy musta been steamed!!! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

A.J.
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