Ronald Reagan is to blame for the 9/11 Attack

[aces961]

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Well a lot of them would probably be shooting at us as we would be going through Fallujah.

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Forgive me for my bluntness in this comparison, but I don't think that its a correct assumption that these guys will act like characters in a video game. I mean terrorists are capable of waiting for a better time to strike, what would have prevented these militants from just waiting until later when there wasn't an overwhelming number of american troops.

[MMMMMM]

Fine, if they're not going to shoot at us as we go through Fallujah and search and disarm every house and person in it--that would be super!

[Felix_Nietsche]

This is an assinine argument.

[Cyrus]

"While a credible case can be made for the 9/11 direct causal timeline starting with Lebanon, the real seeds were sown in 1948. If America had not supported Israel we would not be under attack -- Period."

Actually, and this may surprise those people who don't know what happened in history before Ronald Reagan, the United States was NOT the keenest supporter of new-born Israel in 1948. If anything, the US was highly suspicious of a new country, created by some unreliable (and un-controlled) ideologues smack in the middle of oil-rich Arabia, an area which was ripe to be inherited by the US from battered Britain. Moreover, those leaders of the new state of Israel were decidedly ..socialist!

The most ardent supporter of Israel's creation at the time was the Soviet Union! The US was reluctant and suspicious. Amidst all the "reactionary regimes" of corrupt sheikhdoms, maintained by Great Britain to serve Her Majesty's interests in the region, was to be created a pesky, little socialist state?! Why, it might jeopardize the whole Arabia, ruled by fiercely anti-communist and pro-western leaders!

Of course, as time passed, and the United States was assured that socialism "Israeli-style" was for domestic consumption only (it was the nationalist socialist variant, actually, i.e. socialism reserved only for the "ruling race") and as soon as domestic politics in America started getting affected by the various AIPACS, the balance shifted decisively and resolutely in favour of unqualified support towards Israel.

That the blind, unqualified American support of Israel has been a strategic disaster for the supporter (but a glorious success for the supported) cannot be seriously disputed. It's a non starter. Every time I have tried to argue the matter, I was confronted typically, sooner or later, with some pathetic moral arguments.