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Old 09-10-2005, 05:28 AM
mackthefork mackthefork is offline
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Default Re: Only if the signatories are appropriately ashamed

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I too would not want my name published for signing an anti-gay marriage petition. I would be much to ashamed to let the world know that i hold that kind of bigotted viewpoint. I can see why the signers are upset.

When I sign a petition, I believe in it and will shout it from the rooftops.

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It threatening behaviour, no other way of looking at it. Say a lumberjack set up a webpage detailing the names and addresses of all the people who signed an anti logging petition, what purpose except to threaten and stifle any counterpoint. People are not ashamed, at least I doubt it, they are afraid.

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Old 09-10-2005, 05:36 AM
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Default Re: Only if the signatories are appropriately ashamed

Publishing a list is hardly threatening behaviour, IMO.

I will let MMMMMM elaborate.
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Old 09-10-2005, 05:40 AM
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Default Re: Only if the signatories are appropriately ashamed

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Publishing a list is hardly threatening behaviour, IMO.

I will let MMMMMM elaborate.

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What would happen if these same people published a list of homosexual people, given that they are obviously against them, think about it? The left wing press would have a field day on it and you know it.

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Old 09-11-2005, 07:57 AM
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Default Re: Only if the signatories are appropriately ashamed

Well, for one thing there is a difference between a list of homosexual people and a list of homosexual people who have signed a petition requesting the government to take some action.

Uf you believe in something enough to sign for it, stand up and be counted.

But, I really should let 6M elaborate as he understand this best.
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Old 09-12-2005, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: Attempted voter blackmail?

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If you wish to be married or whatever in a church it makes sense to expect to have to follow the teachings of that church to a certain degree, homosexuals by default cannot do this, so i see no reason for them to expect a church to bless their partnership. I don't see why they need it, except to prove some childish point, no one cares what they do, except for a few idiots.


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They (meaning homosexuals who wish to get married) DON'T WANT THE CHURCHES BLESSING. They could care less. They want to be treated equally with the thousands of other marriages recognized by the state and federal governments, and have the same rights as married people. In the US today being married conveys more than 100 legal rights, not the least important of which are hospitalization visits, rights of inheritance, taxation, etc.
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Old 09-12-2005, 12:36 PM
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If you wish to be married or whatever in a church it makes sense to expect to have to follow the teachings of that church to a certain degree, homosexuals by default cannot do this, so i see no reason for them to expect a church to bless their partnership. I don't see why they need it, except to prove some childish point, no one cares what they do, except for a few idiots.


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They (meaning homosexuals who wish to get married) DON'T WANT THE CHURCHES BLESSING. They could care less. They want to be treated equally with the thousands of other marriages recognized by the state and federal governments, and have the same rights as married people. In the US today being married conveys more than 100 legal rights, not the least important of which are hospitalization visits, rights of inheritance, taxation, etc.

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Why the indignation, like I said I think they should have those things, but threatening ignorant people isn't the best way to get public support (which is needed imho). Also yes 'they' means homosexual people who want to get married, I thought we knew what we were talking about. If they don't care about getting the churches blessing then what is the problem, the government should stop moralising and fix the injustice, be prepared for this to create a whole new bunch of problems when it does come in though.

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Old 09-12-2005, 03:45 PM
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If Archie Bunker's shoe fits....People who are against this initiative are no less bigots than people who were against school integration.

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