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But the main story is that GOP strongholds aren't so strong anymore. For example, Roanoke, which Bush won 66-33 in 2004, went to Kilgore by only 53-45. [/ QUOTE ] These numbers actually don't mean what you imply. Behold, the last 4 elections results for Roanoke County. 2005: Kilgore (R) 53 - Kaine (D) 45 2004: Bush (R) 66 - Kerry (D) 33 2001: Earley (R) 52 - Warner (D) 47 2000: Bush (R) 60 - Gore (D) 37 Looks like a normal trend to me. |
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Looks like a normal trend to me. [/ QUOTE ] Insufficient sample size. |
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[ QUOTE ] Looks like a normal trend to me. [/ QUOTE ] Insufficient sample size. [/ QUOTE ] So was the original post. What's your point? P.S. I'm not defending the GOP here. I voted for Kaine yesterday. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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I really don't think we can determine liberal/conservatives splits and partisan trends from the results of state-wide races.
South Dakota -- for instance -- is a very red state, but its two senators are fairly liberal Democrats who have some of the highest approval reatings among U.S Senators. Meanwhile, while George Pataki and Michael Bloomberg have had some extremely successful election results, the state is still trending neutral to very slightly Democratic (relative to where it's been over the past decade or two) in federal races. |
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South Dakota -- for instance -- is a very red state, but its two senators are fairly liberal Democrats who have some of the highest approval reatings among U.S Senators. [/ QUOTE ] OMG, you mean it was all a dream? Tom Daschle won reelection last year? You have ruined my day. I have been deluded for a year thinking that that loser had been defeated. Now you tell me that he wasn't. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] My only hope is that it is you who are somehow wrong. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] |
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[ QUOTE ] South Dakota -- for instance -- is a very red state, but its two senators are fairly liberal Democrats who have some of the highest approval reatings among U.S Senators. [/ QUOTE ] Damn....Wrong Dakota...Sorry. OMG, you mean it was all a dream? Tom Daschle won reelection last year? You have ruined my day. I have been deluded for a year thinking that that loser had been defeated. Now you tell me that he wasn't. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] My only hope is that it is you who are somehow wrong. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] |
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untrue in the VA race. It was viewed as a toss up before tuesday. nobody thought kaine would win by a greater margin than 1 percent. The only poll that had him up by more than 5 was denounced and issued a release saying their poll was faulty.
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I don’t know if the Virginia Governor’s race really meant anything. I had a tough time voting for any of then in that I thought Kaine, Kilgore, and Potts were all worthless wastes of DNA spewing a bunch of crap, and a lot of my friends and family felt the same way.
Some observations: Kaine – Liberal trial lawyer borrows the Clinton/Warner playbook and runs a “moderate democrat” republican style campaign and wins. Kilgore – Ran a very democrat message style negative campaign – “Vote for me because the other guy sucks and I have a vision” and lost. Potts – Stealth democrat; possibly Kaine’s edge because when pressed with the “do you really have a chance” question and “if not you who” he praised Kaine and really attacked Kilgore at every opportunity. Kaine may have a difficult year since both the Lieutenant Governorship and the Attorney General slot went to republicans and, even though the republicans lost 2 Senate Seats (expected) they still control the legislature. He also made a lot of statements like – “I am morally opposed to the Death Penalty and there should be a moratorium on it – but I’ll sign Death Warrants if elected.” And “We need to raise the gas tax to pay for transportation, but I won’t raise taxes” that he might have a hard time living up to. He just might fall into the Gilmore trap. The big winner in Virginia may be Mark Warner as he needed a democrat win as outgoing Governor for the national democratic party to take him seriously as an ’08 Presidential contender. If Kaine is a disaster there is enough time for Warner to distance himself, blame the republicans and not get splattered. |
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We had a status quo election:
************************************************** * Very True. VA was a slight disappointment but the Repub candidate in VA was not a strong candidate. As for NJ, no surprise that a Dem won. I wanted Arnold to get the prop passed that would have castrated the California assembly ability to spend their state into bankruptcy. I guess CA has not hit rock bottom yet. Arnold gave his best shot to force fiscal responsibility on CA but the liberals won. The best Arnold can do for the rest of his term is play defense to stem the tide of fiscal insanity in CA. He just does not have enough votes in the assembly. In the last several years, the Dems have been getting smacked around in elections and they are desperate for any electoral success. This election changed nothing. But it won’t stop the Dems acting like it was a resounding victory. Let the Dems enjoy their fantasies in the land of make believe. |
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Arnold gave his best shot to force fiscal responsibility on CA but the liberals won. [/ QUOTE ] Arnold just dropped $300 million on that special election. Not very fiscally responsible. |
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