|
|
|
|
#1
12-12-2005, 01:15 PM
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
If these were the 100's, I would fold and expect the SB to have exactly 62, maybe J2.
In the 30's, he has 88 and 72o enough to call, but it's not really THAT clearcut and I wouldn't say it's a 'bad' fold. 
|
|
#2
12-12-2005, 01:19 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
If you limp in with AJo, you're look to hit a bigger hand than TPTK, aren't you? AJo doesn't seem like a good hand to play like this to me. It's not a good multiway hand.
If you do hit TPTK, and call the flop, how far to you keep calling? Are you calling the flop hoping it get's checked down? Or are you trapping with it, planning on calling all the way?
|
|
#3
12-12-2005, 01:27 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
[ QUOTE ]
If you limp in with AJo, you're look to hit a bigger hand than TPTK, aren't you? AJo doesn't seem like a good hand to play like this to me. It's not a good multiway hand. If you do hit TPTK, and call the flop, how far to you keep calling? Are you calling the flop hoping it get's checked down? Or are you trapping with it, planning on calling all the way? [/ QUOTE ] yeah, i'd obviously like to have something better than 1 pair before i stick a bunch of chips in, but AJ makes something better than 1 pair less often than 95o does, so i'm not exactly playing it for trips/2 pair value. my plan is to win a medium pot with a one pair hand, but sometimes i wind up with everything in the middle. calling down all the way is also an ok option, but you hate to see that you let 2nd pair hit his kicker or something.
|
|
#4
12-12-2005, 02:10 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
I think my preference would be to fold it, unless on the button with many limpers, in which case I'd limp. If I did come in earlier, I'd want to raise with it, so I could commit to it if I hit a TPTK flop.
The way you're suggesting seems viable, but awfully hard one the nerves. You're going to have to guess if TPTK is good in an unraised pot, which is pretty tough. Plus you can't have your cake and eat it to. If you call, you have to take a chance of someone getting a "free" chance to improve, but if you raise, you're pretty much commiting yourself to the hand.
|
|
#5
12-12-2005, 01:28 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
[ QUOTE ]
Nobody is raising AJ from the button preflop here? Why are we letting MP1 and the blinds in for a cheap flop? [/ QUOTE ] lurking around here to pick up a few tips. Mainly play limit. Please correct me but I am raising 99% of the time pre flop for this exact reason. I do not want to have a decision against j6 or whatever trash the blinds might have. You hand has +EV from late postion.Dont let the blinds play for free.
|
|
#6
12-12-2005, 01:53 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Nobody is raising AJ from the button preflop here? Why are we letting MP1 and the blinds in for a cheap flop? [/ QUOTE ] lurking around here to pick up a few tips. Mainly play limit. Please correct me but I am raising 99% of the time pre flop for this exact reason. I do not want to have a decision against j6 or whatever trash the blinds might have. You hand has +EV from late postion.Dont let the blinds play for free. [/ QUOTE ] I'm usually not raising this preflop because I'm not looking to build a pot with AJo. I'd much rather try to get paid off if I hit than raise preflop and face a likely call. It's true that it's +EV in late position, but it's a lot harder to make this raise here than in a limit ring game where I can better forecast scenarios of how the rest of the hand goes. I don't think a raise is horrible, but I'm usually not looking to build a pot preflop this early in a tourney. OP: I probably call, but as many have said, it's pretty close. I do think I see a worse hand enough to call. -SonnyJay
|
|
#7
12-12-2005, 06:36 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Nobody is raising AJ from the button preflop here? Why are we letting MP1 and the blinds in for a cheap flop? [/ QUOTE ] lurking around here to pick up a few tips. Mainly play limit. Please correct me but I am raising 99% of the time pre flop for this exact reason. I do not want to have a decision against j6 or whatever trash the blinds might have. You hand has +EV from late postion.Dont let the blinds play for free. [/ QUOTE ] I'm usually not raising this preflop because I'm not looking to build a pot with AJo. I'd much rather try to get paid off if I hit than raise preflop and face a likely call. It's true that it's +EV in late position, but it's a lot harder to make this raise here than in a limit ring game where I can better forecast scenarios of how the rest of the hand goes. I don't think a raise is horrible, but I'm usually not looking to build a pot preflop this early in a tourney. [/ QUOTE ] You're sort of missing the point. You are letting MP1 and the blinds get a cheap flop. Why do you want to let people think they can limp in to a pot that you are expecting to be a favorite to win? And why do you want to play AJ multiway? Why take a hand such as AJ that is already difficult enough to play then compound that difficulty by not trying to make it heads up after the flop?
|
|
#9
12-12-2005, 01:33 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
i hate that you never put the buy-in on these hands...it is so crucial...i did quick math and if i'm right this is an 800 chip tourney...in that case i call...1000 chips i probably fold
i think you played the hand great
|
|
#10
12-12-2005, 01:37 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
I call here, donks could have QJ/KJ and regular players don't complete from the SB with j6 or j2. The only hands you are afraid of are 66 and 22. Sets happen though.
Eh, barring a read I call here.
|
 |
|
|
Hybrid Mode
