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Actually, I think a good portion of the players on this board are tight-passive.

First post for me!

My question is, why, if TP isn't particularly good? Sure, hitting AK for TPTK is great, but AT or A9? It seems like a good way to lose the most on the big streets when your opponent's (non-ace) overcard hits and you're raised on the turn and have to call down.

I remember SSH gave specific examples - "two overpair hands," for one, that suggested not even raising the flop with an overpair.

[benkath1]

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Actually, I think a good portion of the players on this board are tight-passive.

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that made me laugh.

[aargh57]

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First post for me!

My question is, why, if TP isn't particularly good? Sure, hitting AK for TPTK is great, but AT or A9? It seems like a good way to lose the most on the big streets when your opponent's (non-ace) overcard hits and you're raised on the turn and have to call down.

I remember SSH gave specific examples - "two overpair hands," for one, that suggested not even raising the flop with an overpair.

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That particular hand is TT on a coordinated board and a huge pot. In that particular case you want to protect your hand but there are many cards that will hurt you and a raise will not make anyone fold because of the size of the pot. However the same pot/flop with AA he recommends re-raising because of the huge equity that you have in the hand and the fact that no cards can hurt you. The times when you have a TP hand that will fit into the category of not raising will be rare.

[Felipe]

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First post for me!

My question is, why, if TP isn't particularly good? Sure, hitting AK for TPTK is great, but AT or A9? It seems like a good way to lose the most on the big streets when your opponent's (non-ace) overcard hits and you're raised on the turn and have to call down.

I remember SSH gave specific examples - "two overpair hands," for one, that suggested not even raising the flop with an overpair.

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That move is done in exceptional cases. Reread the book. Second, reread two overpair hands section. Then read the hand quizzes at the end. The book must be seen in a holistic light, and don't focus on one chapter or another. The whole book must be understood first.

If your flop raise cannot protect your hand well enough on the flop, call the flop and wait to raise the turn *IF* somebody will from your right will bet into you.

thoughts..?
felipe

[DMBFan23]

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Actually, I think a good portion of the players on this board are tight-passive.

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I sure was when I was a micro-er, and it was a pretty helpful way to learn the basics of postflop play slowly - gotta ease yourself into it.

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Actually, I think a good portion of the players on this board are tight-passive.

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I sure was when I was a micro-er, and it was a pretty helpful way to learn the basics of postflop play slowly - gotta ease yourself into it.

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yep, I was when I was down in the .5/1, and 1/2 levels, I think a lot of ppl think they are TA when they really are TP, I'm not saying super-rocky or anything, just more passive than they should be

[Pylos]

Thanks for posting this. I've had a horrible run (-120BB) the last few days and have been playing like an idiot.

After I read this I went in with guns blazing and am up +30BB for the day so far. Aggression pays!

Maybe I'll ask it like this - at what point is "TPTK" not worth the reraise? Would you 3-bet A7 on a low flop? A9?

Granted, not 3-betting/capping AA or TPTK AK is an atrocity in most situations; at the same time, 3-betting when you're obviously behind is spewing chips.

[Deamon2]

A7 is not tptk (it means top pair, top kicker)

the whole point of the post is that tptk, overpairs, ect. are rarely obviously behind. simply being raised is often not enough evidence to conclude that you're beat.