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Limp 9 11.84%
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Old 03-27-2005, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: $30+3 - Very difficult bubble hand

just tryin to help you out man...you don't want the advice i wont give it

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Old 03-27-2005, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: $30+3 - Very difficult bubble hand

if he is a VERY tight player and only opens with Group 1 hands then fine, i'd call and play the flop as it should be played. though while 4-tabling its quite hard to get reads like this all the time. i push this 90% of time time or more and it works quite well...its late tourney, i'd say they'll fold 1/2 the time, call 25% of the time with a had i destroy and call 20% of the time with a hand i'm a coin-flip to, and then there is that 5% of the time i'm destroyed.

I'll take those odds.

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Old 03-27-2005, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: $30+3 - Very difficult bubble hand

by the way...6 2 is one of my fav stealing hands on the bubble [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 03-27-2005, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: $30+3 - Very difficult bubble hand

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if you think it will A: give you the win or B: put you out...and if you think these two options are equally likely...it should be an easy call.

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So now you're supporting a call rather than a push?
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Old 03-27-2005, 10:49 PM
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even if 50% of the hands he calls you with are pairs, and you end up being in a coinflip situation--- consider what percentage of the time he folds?

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Well, you give me the percentage of the time he folds, and I'll do the ICM numbers.
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Old 03-27-2005, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: $30+3 - Very difficult bubble hand

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if he is a VERY tight player and only opens with Group 1 hands then fine, i'd call and play the flop as it should be played. though while 4-tabling its quite hard to get reads like this all the time. i push this 90% of time time or more and it works quite well...its late tourney, i'd say they'll fold 1/2 the time, call 25% of the time with a had i destroy and call 20% of the time with a hand i'm a coin-flip to, and then there is that 5% of the time i'm destroyed.

I'll take those odds.

Degen

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Group 1 hands? There is no one on this planet that will only open with group 1 hands in a 4 handed game here.
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Old 03-28-2005, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: $30+3 - Very difficult bubble hand

LOL then there is no one on this planet i would not push all-in right here...its a $30 tourney for chrissake...you either take the pot as it stands, double up and win or you lose.


Next tourney please.


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Old 03-28-2005, 09:44 AM
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Default Re: $30+3 - Very difficult bubble hand

he folds 40%-60%


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Old 03-28-2005, 09:45 AM
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sorry, wrong word...i meant its an easy 'decision'


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Old 03-28-2005, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: $30+3 - Very difficult bubble hand

I would have pushed as well. Although calling seems like a reasonable play and the arguments above have almost persuaded me to change my mind. The question is certainly more confounding than at first glance.

Scuba, I lost two huge hands w/ <font color="red"> A</font>nna <font color="red"> K</font>ournikova in a multi this weekend. She looks good, but doesn't win as often as we'd like!
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