The real reason why evolution is in conflict with religion

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both of those are basically the same.

Okay, I wanna step back to a post a while ago that said that evolution is stopping because the weakest are reproducing (because of technology... yada).

Classically, you'd be right, the physically weakest and puniest are enjoying the top of the heap right now. However with the advent of science, evolutionarily speaking, the "strongest" aren't the strongest anymore. It is survival of the fittest, and in our society, the brainiacs are the fittest.

So our society will get brainier and brainier. This doesn't mean that evolution will stop, it just means that in a couple hundred thousand years, we're gonna be some puny [censored].

[tolbiny]

Why am i narrowing what down to one lineage? If you mean kadabba and ramidus i was just tossing out a couple of examples that happen to be at the top of my head for some particular reason right now. My point was that evolution is a competition for limited resources- humans have proved better as a species (relative to a large number of other species) in using the resouces to improve thier biological fitness. No i don't think we are the "end all be all" - but in terms of propagating our genes we have sig advantages over most types of organisms.

[Rduke55]

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both of those are basically the same.

Okay, I wanna step back to a post a while ago that said that evolution is stopping because the weakest are reproducing (because of technology... yada).

Classically, you'd be right, the physically weakest and puniest are enjoying the top of the heap right now. However with the advent of science, evolutionarily speaking, the "strongest" aren't the strongest anymore. It is survival of the fittest, and in our society, the brainiacs are the fittest.

So our society will get brainier and brainier. This doesn't mean that evolution will stop, it just means that in a couple hundred thousand years, we're gonna be some puny [censored].

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This is a good point. Look at neanderthals. Bigger, stronger, more robust - but the delicate little sapiens is still around and they are not.

[Rduke55]

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we have sig advantages over most types of organisms.

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(My emphasis.)

We're better in the current conditions than other apes, sure. This is not the point that people are arguing.

[tolbiny]

Larger brains to

[Rduke55]

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This is not always an advantage. Several species (including ones I study) have reduced brain size. Nervous tissue is incredibly expensive. Often losing some of it increases fitness.

[tolbiny]

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This is not always an advantage. Several species (including ones I study) have reduced brain size. Nervous tissue is incredibly expensive. Often losing some of it increases fitness.

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I know that, its just funny that not only were Neanderthals more robust that they also might have been smarter than us.

There are also problems associated with brian size and obstectrics- much higher miscarrige rate and problems for the mother in birth- which is why some say that our brain size hit a wall around 300,000 years ago.

[Rduke55]

Oh, I thought you were talking about us vs. other apes.
Yeah, neanderthals seemed like studs. Big, hairy studs.

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spends too much time at the caveman exhibit at the museum.

eww

[Rduke55]

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spends too much time at the caveman exhibit at the museum.

eww

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