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#31
10-03-2005, 12:13 PM
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Re: A Compromise about ID in Biology Classes
Why would God create the universe in such a way that would be illogical?
Shouldn't the discoveries that support evolution make for a stronger argument of how powerful a being that created everything is? If God is beyond time, then the time between the ape-man and us is not even remotely significant. Who's to say that we (as we exist and appear now) are the final product of His plan? (I'm looking for more of a philosophical answer, not biblical.) 
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#32
10-03-2005, 12:14 PM
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Re: A Compromise about ID in Biology Classes
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make sure that ALL OF IT is discussed. Not just the 5% that throws some doubt onto certain small specifics of evolutionary theory. [/ QUOTE ] Contrary to yours, and some others thoughts, this would be bad for evolutionists. Evolution has had about what 50+ yrs of misleading-no misinforming students across the country? From Hoekel's drawing to the fossil record or how about the magic soup experiments of early earth that "proved" the chance formation of the first cells? These were/are presented as facts when they have all been proven false . So I whole heartedly agree. Let's discuss it all.
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#34
10-03-2005, 12:16 PM
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Evolution has had about what 50+ yrs of misleading-no misinforming students across the country? [/ QUOTE ] So the Christian church has a 2000 year head start, right?
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#35
10-03-2005, 12:17 PM
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Re: Herr Little Freddie Nietzche
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[ QUOTE ] You clearly can't see any basis for ethical/moral behavior unless it is dictated by a supreme being, [/ QUOTE ] Provide the basis. Mike Martin can't and admits it. [/ QUOTE ] Nietzsche, for one, already did. It really isn't hard to provide a basis for moral/ethical behavior without the laws of some supreme being who grants eternal life or death, is it? The ONLY reason one should choose action A versus action B is because that's what God (some all-powerful "infinite being" who resides beyond the universe) wants? This is a more reasonable basis?
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#38
10-03-2005, 12:22 PM
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Re: Herr Little Freddie Nietzche
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[ QUOTE ] Nietzsche, for one, already did. [/ QUOTE ] Didn't. Can't. [/ QUOTE ] His book Beyond Good and Evil already touched on so much of these moral questions, but obviously you ask for a basis, and then say its not possible, clearly showing that you are choosing to believe in your Christian basis as the only one possible, so discussion is futile.
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#39
10-03-2005, 12:24 PM
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Re: A Compromise about ID in Biology Classes
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[ QUOTE ] So the Christian church has a 2000 year head start, right? [/ QUOTE ] This is so typical of so many of your counterarguments. [/ QUOTE ] Because the Bible says so and I have faith in it. There, I'll try to follow your example.
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