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Old 11-29-2005, 04:03 AM
Proofrock Proofrock is offline
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Default Re: December - the 180 man SNG challenge

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Wow, I really hate finishing 31st after focusing for 2 hours 15 minutes, pushing for 9BB in the CO with Q2s and getting called in the BB with KQs. Argh.

This is mentally frustrating...

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Just to commiserate, I just spent the first two hours as the chipleader. Then in two orbits, AQ<AK, AK<QQ, and 44<10/10 (BB vs. SB) and i'm out in 26th. I hate poker.

-J.A.
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Old 11-29-2005, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: December - the 180 man SNG challenge

I love these things, I'm thinking about quitting my job to just play 180s at Stars (seriously). Just wait for the cards, but if you do get into a pot and miss a flop, extremely aggressive post-flop usually takes it down. Esp. near the end when everyone tightens up to try to make the final 3.

I've only been playing seriously for 3 months. I think I'm above average but nothing special (yet). So you know if I'm beating them handily, the quality of play on these things is pretty piss-poor. Just frustrating in the short run when they donk you out in 23rd place.
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Old 11-28-2005, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: December - the 180 man SNG challenge

They arent STTs. They are 180 player tournaments. Top prize is like 1k.
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Old 11-29-2005, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: December - the 180 man SNG challenge

Just so this isn't a total hijack, good luck with your challenge and I may see you from time to time. GL [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 11-29-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: December - the 180 man SNG challenge

Could anyone even guesstimate a ROI in these games in more of a longterm sense? In order for this to be profitable I determined for myself that I would need a ROI of 50% or higher. This seems really high relative to SnGs but I don't know what is realistic for MTT's.

GL with your challenge. If it can actually be that profitable I may have to join you eventually.
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Old 11-29-2005, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: December - the 180 man SNG challenge

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Could anyone even guesstimate a ROI in these games in more of a longterm sense? In order for this to be profitable I determined for myself that I would need a ROI of 50% or higher. This seems really high relative to SnGs but I don't know what is realistic for MTT's.

GL with your challenge. If it can actually be that profitable I may have to join you eventually.

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I really have no idea. All I know is I have a 13% ROI in Party 22's over a small sample (like 400). Hopefully I can play at least 150 in December and get a rough gauge.

It is veyr, very hard to determine a true ROI from these kind of things due to the sheer variance. It's impossible with MTT's.
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Old 11-29-2005, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: December - the 180 man SNG challenge

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button (t9135)
Hero (t4400)
BB (t365)
UTG (t4170)
UTG+1 (t7555)
MP1 (t3645)
MP2 (t1200)
CO (t1155)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t200, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t1155 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t4400</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>,

30 seconds pass.....

UTG calls t3970 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (All-In).

Flop: (t9925) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t9925) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t9925) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t9925


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Old 11-29-2005, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: December - the 180 man SNG challenge

Maybe he's just extremely tight and didn't want to enter as only a 45% favorite to win the hand (or whatever). Although it's hard to see how he could have you on anything other than AK or a high PP, which he would have dominated. Weird.
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Old 11-29-2005, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: December - the 180 man SNG challenge

That guy is a dick. I hate slow rollers.
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: December - the 180 man SNG challenge

Last time I limped UTG w/AA, J7 flopped 2 pair and stacked me.

F### SLOW PLAYING!!!!!
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