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#31
10-17-2005, 08:34 AM
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Re: Dear party, fix your RNG
The last time I went to a B&M I had an interesting conversation in the waiting room with someone who refused to play online as well:
It seems the hands follow a betting pattern! Yes, that's right. The first person to raise wins the pot! It's that simple! Just a betting pattern. He watched his friend win 4k in a tourney by raising a lot. Plus, he studied computer programming. There you have it. 
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#32
10-17-2005, 08:36 AM
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Re: Dear party, fix your RNG
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[ QUOTE ] ...without actually pointing us towards where we could find this mountain of empirical evidence done by hundreds of players. I know why he doesn't point us towards it: it doesn't exist. [/ QUOTE ] It does. You just have to look for it. Examples: Jim E analyses Party Board cards Steve Brecher analyses Stars all in situations PokerStat author tests his software on his own 125k hands (very nice read) The bottom link shows not only starting hands, but analyses the hands made on the flop, and the hands they should then go on to have at the river and so on. Rom [/ QUOTE ] The first one is pretty irrelevant since most rigging wouldn't favour any card coming in the long run. It would even out. And if it didn't it wouldn't be hard to compensate in later hands. The other two were better done though (providing he didn't make the numbers up of course [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]). Now someone just need to do the same analysis for Party.
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#33
10-17-2005, 08:51 AM
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Re: Dear party, fix your RNG
You are right about the "assuming he didn't make it up" part.
This is really the problem with most any third party analysis. You ultimately have to trust both the auditor *and* the site are honest, since ultimately, you have to trust that the data supplied to the auditor is legitimate. Basically if you want 100% undenyable proof it ain't gonna happen. To the OP, perhaps you should take up Chess -- less bad beats. Rom
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#34
10-17-2005, 09:03 AM
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Re: Dear party, fix your RNG
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[ QUOTE ] How dare you yawn at my soulcrushing insults. [/ QUOTE ] i have no idea. maybe because i have 50k hands on PT and tried b&m for first time past week, [/ QUOTE ] You claim that the PARTY RNG is rigged, when you have 50k hands on PT vs 500 hands in a casino. One of those has the wrong sample size, you have picked the wrong one. Lori
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#35
10-17-2005, 09:05 AM
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Re: Dear party, fix your RNG
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just got back from vegas. casino poker is way more fun than internet poker btw. amyways,the bad beats on party are nuts. i was in 8 sngs and 3 MTTs this weekend and every one of my AAs were cracked. i was at a casino and there was a computer security guy there. he said that party's rng is screwed up and just 200,000 hands are given - instead of the 4,000,000 or whatever. and he said that kings are favored in the rng over aces. and he said that he has proven that others' cards can be seen after the fop.funny thing is at casinos the pros were open-minded to party issues - whereas on 2+2 everyone freaks out when someone mentions that the rng might be screwed up. hmmmm. i'm here now because i just got knocked out of a MTT when KJ beat my AA push - again. anyways, if u have not been to a casino - go. it's way more fun and legit than internet poker. [/ QUOTE ] I love B&M "pros" who suck too badly to beat online. The games are harder, its not that its rigged, its just that you aren't good enough to beat them. Sorry.
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#36
10-17-2005, 09:16 AM
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Re: Dear party, fix your RNG
Regular cheetos are better than cheetos puffs.
The big problem with cheetos puffs is that by the time you've eaten 3 of them, they have cemented your teeth into a pasty mass and you can no longer chew properly. And then you have to spend 5 minutes trying to get them out of your teeth. Does any other food do this? None I can think of at the moment.
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