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Old 10-07-2005, 09:50 AM
nyc999 nyc999 is offline
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Default Re: Grand Jury Shopping: Abuse of Power or not?

From the Washington Post:

Former House majority leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) met for at least 30 minutes with the top fundraiser of his Texas political action committee on Oct. 2, 2002, the same day that the Republican National Committee in Washington set in motion a series of financial transactions at the heart of the money-laundering and conspiracy case against DeLay.

During the meeting at his Capitol office, DeLay conferred with James W. Ellis, the head of his principal fundraising committee in Washington and his chief fundraiser in Texas. Ellis had earlier given the Republican National Committee a check for $190,000 drawn mostly from corporate contributions. The same day as the meeting, the RNC ordered $190,000 worth of checks sent to seven Republican legislative candidates in Texas.
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Old 10-07-2005, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: Grand Jury Shopping: Abuse of Power or not?

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During the meeting at his Capitol office, DeLay conferred with James W. Ellis, the head of his principal fundraising committee in Washington and his chief fundraiser in Texas. Ellis had earlier given the Republican National Committee a check for $190,000 drawn mostly from corporate contributions. The same day as the meeting, the RNC ordered $190,000 worth of checks sent to seven Republican legislative candidates in Texas.

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And? Where's the crime? This is pefectly legal. I assume (since RNC was able to cash the checks), the contributors knew they were contributing to the RNC. The DNC does it too -- it's the soft-money loophole. So now they're going to call it money laundering ... in which case the evidence is going to have to prove there was an intent to break the law. What law?

Right or wrong -- it's SOP, and the records are public. Get the facts from opensecrets.org.
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Not hearing much on the Delay indictments suddenly

Uh oh...

Linking Delay To Everyday Operations of Texans For A Republican Majority
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Old 10-17-2005, 09:23 PM
Felix_Nietsche Felix_Nietsche is offline
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Default Update: DeLay Turns Down a Ronnie Earle Plea Bargain for a...

.......Misdemeanor.

LOL! Ronnie Earle is getting desperate. He indicts DeLay with two phony felonies and now he is on his hands and knees begging DeLay to plea to a misdemeanor. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Tom DeLay's attorney petitioned Ronnie Earle to turn over the list of supposed Republicans that recieved the corporate donations. The defense received a list that was a alleged copy but no original list existed. Huh!? Translation: Ronnie Earle has been busted. Mark my words, this is going to be a MAJOR entertainment for my fellow republicans because Ronnie Earle will be embarassed and exposed as a fraud. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

DeLay turned the plea deal down flat. Ronnie's Earle's greatest fear is he will have to go to trial AND...the trial will be televised. Ronnie Earle's modis operindi (sp?) is to indict people but not going to trial or having half-ass trials where the defendent EASILY gets off. Ronnie loves being in the news but not actually having to go to trial.... If DeLay accepted the misdemeanor he would BECOME the MJORITY LEADER AGAIN.....INSTANTLY. Ronnie Earle has blinked BIG TIME. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] But....DeLay wants it all:

1. Get acquited.
2. Get his position back.
3. Embarass Ronnie Earle.

and DeLay will get all three.
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Old 10-17-2005, 09:52 PM
John Ho John Ho is offline
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Default Re: Update: DeLay Turns Down a Ronnie Earle Plea Bargain for a...

LOL.

Delay's attorney says the offer to plead to a misdemeanor was made BEFORE the 1st indictments were handed out.

How you went from the facts to the claims made in your post are beyond me. It is not unusual for anyone to be offered a plea bargain before trial.
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Old 10-17-2005, 11:55 PM
Felix_Nietsche Felix_Nietsche is offline
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Default Re: Update: DeLay Turns Down a Ronnie Earle Plea Bargain for a...

Delay's attorney says the offer to plead to a misdemeanor was made BEFORE the 1st indictments were handed out.
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There were two plea offers.
The first offer was BEFORE DeLay was indicted. Earle told DeLay that if he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor then he would NOT be indicted on the felony charges. DeLay said no.

The 2nd offer was AFTER DeLay got indicted. If DeLay pleaded guilty to a misdemeaner, then the felony indictments would be dropped. DeLay turned this down. This was the plea offer I was commenting on. It was pretty silly of Earle to make such an offer after DeLay has already had to endure the press hooplah of these sham indictments. DeLay is fighting this all-the-way.


How you went from the facts to the claims made in your post are beyond me.
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Well I live in Texas and Ronnie Earle's unthically methods are common knowledge. I'd rather not have to re-write numerous posts that I've made on Ronnie Earle's shenanigans. Don't believe me. Just watch the Delay-Earle sage in the next few weeks. Earle will become desperate to avoid a trial. Already he has failed to produce documents to the DeLay defense team that he claimed he had. My prediction is these sham indictments never go to trial. Feel free to razz me if my predictions come to naught.
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Old 10-18-2005, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: Update: DeLay Turns Down a Ronnie Earle Plea Bargain for a...

I haven't been following this whole thing, but if it true that these are sham indictments, and that Earle is known for such proceedings, then I would greatly hope that there is some legal basis under which DeLay can sue him--and that he does. And I know literally nothing about either DeLay or Earle--I just think that abuse of prosescutorial power--and the existence of certain unfair laws--are great evils which ought to be heartily resisted.
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: Update: DeLay Turns Down a Ronnie Earle Plea Bargain for a...

95% of all cases are plead down. You could probably add a few more percentage points for those in which a plea was offered but not accepted. This isn't evidence of a weak case; rather, this is evidence that Delay is being treated the same as 95+% of the people out there. Big deal.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:26 AM
Felix_Nietsche Felix_Nietsche is offline
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Default Ronnie Earle Unable to Provide Key \"Evidence\" to Defense

The key piece of information you are missing is that Ronnie Earle was asked by the defense to turnover copies of their evidence. Ronnie Earle's office was unable to provide a copy of the "original" recipient list of these corporate donations. Instead the received a list presumably created by Ronnie Earle's office which did not match the number of recipients in the indictment.

So where is the original list? Did it ever exist? By law Ronnie Earle has to provide copies of all his evidence to DeLay defense and he is already in breach of that law. THEN.....Ronnie Earle trys to persuade DeLay to plead to a misdemenor which would allow DeLay to retain his leadership position. This puts Ronnie Earle between a rock and a hard place. This last plea deal was made out of weakness not strength.

Mark my words, Ronnie Earle will become desperate to avoid a trial. He has no case and he has two choices:
1. Manufacture a case and embarrass himself (hopefully on national TV).
2. Drop his case.

I am 100% CONFIDENT this will occur. Even though the judge presiding over the case is democrat and gave money to the John Kerry campaign. I give everyone on this forum my complete permission to razz me if my predictions are not correct.

Here is a link from a fellow Texan living in Travis County who has seen Ronnie Earle in action. I'm glad the rest of the 49 states in the union will get to know this clown. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/10/13/121927.php
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:50 AM
Felix_Nietsche Felix_Nietsche is offline
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Default DeLay Running Radio Ads Mocking Ronnie Earle

"DeLay's forces are now striking back at Earle. They're running a humorous, sarcastic ad on the radio about Earle and his partisan legal crusades. They've also subpoenaed Earle to appear in court to prove that he actually has some evidence to support his case and to explain irregularities in his conduct with jury members which may have led to unfairly influencing the outcome of his indictments."

I did not think this was possible but it appears that DeLay's defense team is even MORE CONFIDENT than I am that he will breeze through these sham proceedings....
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