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| a bargain and will really help your game |
   
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17 | 14.91% |
| good value, but some topics superficailly covered |
  
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38 | 33.33% |
| OK, but some of the advice is questionable |
  
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32 | 28.07% |
| Not that much of value, though some sections may be useful |
  
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22 | 19.30% |
| trash, and even may hurt your game |
  
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5 | 4.39% |
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#34
05-06-2005, 01:40 PM
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Re: greatest player ever in the NBA?
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Larry Bird? Jesus H. Christ. [/ QUOTE ] He's easily top 5 all time. He was a better 3 pt shooter than Jordan, a better FT shooter, and while Jordan did average more PPG over his career, about 2/3 of those PPG can be attributed to getting to the free throw line more per game. That said, I voted Jordan. Bird is ahead of Magic, imo. And I hate the Celtics. But Bird's greatness cannot be denied. If there are 3 seconds left on the shot clock, game 7 of the NBA finals, with the opposition leading by 2, there's no one I want more than Larry Bird to take that shot. And having Bird on the short list is not like having DiMaggio on the short list. DiMaggio was top 30 all time. Bird is top 5 all time. Bird was much better at basketball than DiMaggio was at baseball. Top 5 players of all time, imo: Jordan Chamberlain Robertson Bird Kareem 
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#35
05-06-2005, 01:44 PM
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If there are 3 seconds left on the shot clock, game 7 of the NBA finals, with the opposition leading by 2, there's no one I want more than Larry Bird to take that shot. [/ QUOTE ] What about Robert Horry
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#38
05-06-2005, 01:47 PM
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Re: greatest player ever in the NBA?
To throw things into perspective, here are Oscar Robertson's ROOKIE stats. He led the league in assists that year.
Points: 30.5 Assists: 9.7 Rebounds: 10.1 He followed that up with these sophomore stats. Points: 30.8 Assists: 11.4 Rebounds: 12.5 That might be the greatest season ever, seriously. Think about if a player was throwing up numbers like that these days. Also, keep in mind that there was no 3-point shot. For comparison, Jordan and LeBron's first two year stats. Jordan Rookie Season Points: 28.2 Assists: 5.9 Rebounds: 6.5 Jordan Third Season (I'll ignore his sophomore season, actually, since he was injured) Points: 37.1 Assists: 4.6 Rebounds: 5.2 LeBron Rookie Season Points: 20.9 Assists: 5.9 Rebounds: 5.5 LeBron Sophomore Season Points: 27.2 Assists: 7.2 Rebounds: 7.4
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#39
05-06-2005, 01:51 PM
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Re: greatest player ever in the NBA?
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To throw things into perspective, here are Oscar Robertson's ROOKIE stats. He led the league in assists that year. Points: 30.5 Assists: 9.7 Rebounds: 10.1 He followed that up with these sophomore stats. Points: 30.8 Assists: 11.4 Rebounds: 12.5 That might be the greatest season ever, seriously. Think about if a player was throwing up numbers like that these days. Also, keep in mind that there was no 3-point shot. For comparison, Jordan and LeBron's first two year stats. Jordan Rookie Season Points: 28.2 Assists: 5.9 Rebounds: 6.5 Jordan Third Season (I'll ignore his sophomore season, actually, since he was injured) Points: 37.1 Assists: 4.6 Rebounds: 5.2 LeBron Rookie Season Points: 20.9 Assists: 5.9 Rebounds: 5.5 LeBron Sophomore Season Points: 27.2 Assists: 7.2 Rebounds: 7.4 [/ QUOTE ] Different era, but the Big O's numbers are extremely impressive. That being said, Jordan's unbelievable dominance in clutch situations as well as his huge psychological edge over the opposition -- combined, of course with his stellar numbers, particularly his FG% -- make him the clear favorite in this competion. If you were up 90-89 and the Bulls had the last posession, you probably felt like you had already lost.
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