how about crystal meth?

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I live abotu 20 miles from meth central. But how do you do it? Ive heard you snort, inject, freebase, but ive never gotten a conclusive answer.

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It's mostly snorted although some do shoot it. I dabbled with it many years ago. Can't say I like it much. It does give you an super boost of enegry and the effects last mcuh longer than coke at a fraction of the price. If drugs were an auto race, coke would be like a drag race while meth is more like the Daytona 500. It's great if you need to paint your garage,wash the car, mow the lawn and clean the house...right now!!

The long term effects are horrible. Your teeth fall out, you can have serious dramatic weight loss, mental illness ( depression, paranoia, violent outbursts etc.) I'm lucky to have gotten out of it at an early age. Some of the people I knew back then now have serious health problems and some are even dead. Take my word don't f**k with this stuff.

[Voltron87]

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If drugs were an auto race, coke would be like a drag race while meth is more like the Daytona 500.

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lol

you need to post more.

I have not read this whole thread, so this might have been mentioned. But, when I was at the Dr's. the other day for my "problem", I had asked them how hard it would be to quit. They said with the length of time I have been doing it and the amounts I have been doing it, it will (or should) be easier than quitting smoking. The Dr. went on to say that if I ever have a hard time, I can be grateful that I am not kicking meth, crack, or heroin. One reason being that both of these are cheap monetary wise. Second, that the addictive properties of these three are so much worse than cocaine. I asked her about meth some more and she said that the easy access to the drug also makes it so much more dangerous. I have talked to many people that have used coke in the past and they have all told me that even though they had severe coke addictions, they would rather do it again (even knowing how hard it would be to quit) than even try meth once. Plus, people that do coke can "function". They can, for the most part, go to their jobs, fake happiness to their mom, etc...but meth heads, basically lose all hope fairly quickly. But, i am basing all of this on 2nd hand info. I know that the short period of time I have done coke, I still care about the "little things". Like I still talk to my friends, look at baseball scores, play poker, etc... From my understanding a meth head would not do this.

p.s. I am not trying to say coke is not bad. Because it is. But, like my doc said, it could be much worse. I still have a lot of hope.

[Marlow]

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But for whatever reason, meth still doesn't have that Ok image that coke does. And I can't believe that it's because meth is "worse" for you. I think it's got a lot to do with coke just having much better PR.

Marlow

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I think you are very mistaken here. For instance, a heavy meth users brain with reduce in weight by 1% over the course of a year.

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Oh, and coke is vitamin C? Seizures and heart attacks are common effects of a coke OD. And as far as I'm concerned, the fact that more of your average partiers think of it as an option on a Friday night makes it pretty damn dangerous. Good PR goes a long way. Ask George W. Bush.

Marlow

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I think you are very mistaken here. For instance, a heavy meth users brain with reduce in weight by 1% over the course of a year.

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My best friend in HS did a lot of meth. After 3 years of nearly daily use he was a mush brained tardo that would take 15 seconds to reply after you asked him a simple yes or no question.

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Ummm... I've seen that with pot.

I'm not sticking up for meth. I agree it's evil. But why is it in this other class of "bad"?

[Boris]

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Funny story about the crazy meth guy - he had spent 16 years in prison for attempted murder. He stabbed a guy 32 times - and the victim lived. I was like, "wtf were you stabbing him in the toes or something?".

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lol. that is a funny story.

[mason55]

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But for whatever reason, meth still doesn't have that Ok image that coke does. And I can't believe that it's because meth is "worse" for you. I think it's got a lot to do with coke just having much better PR.

Marlow

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I think you are very mistaken here. For instance, a heavy meth users brain with reduce in weight by 1% over the course of a year.

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Oh, and coke is vitamin C? Seizures and heart attacks are common effects of a coke OD. And as far as I'm concerned, the fact that more of your average partiers think of it as an option on a Friday night makes it pretty damn dangerous. Good PR goes a long way. Ask George W. Bush.

Marlow

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*sigh*
(these are all base on my personal experiences, i can't speak for anyone else)

Since you mention it, you can OD on vitamin C as well. What is your point? He was talking about regular use, not O/D levels. Physiologically, meth is worse for you than pretty much everything else in terms of permanent, long term effects.
Also, the psychological addiction factor for meth is much higher for two reasons:

#1 it lasts much longer. Thus when you finally come down, you're much more used to having that feeling. Many of the friday night partiers you're talking about probably won't do coke when they're sober, thus it's just a party thing. The problem with meth is that you do it friday night and you're still awake sunday morning, having gone through a full day of sobriety and nothing but the meth. You start to think "hey, this is pretty cool, it feel great and I could get a lot more done." When you wake up at 6pm after a night long coke binge, you're already sober and generally the whole time you were blowing you were drunk. Thus you don't have that "hey coke is awesome" feeling, you have the "hey getting [censored] up is awesome" feeling. Big difference.

#2: Meth is a lot cheaper and it takes a lot less to get you [censored] up. It's easy to go through $150 of coke in a night between a few people. With meth $20 will have you set for a few straight days. For a lot of people, the limiting factor of coke is that you stop when you run out. With meth, if you spent that same $150, it would take 4 or 5 days for a couple people to run out. Once you've been up snorting meth for 5 days, there's no going back.

Also, you say that people on meth seem depressed almost as soon as they start doing it. That comes from being sleep deprived and yet having absolutely no way to sleep. After a day and a half of that it gets pretty depressing pretty fast. Also the crash is terrible. If you start to crash, you get huge depression. Then you blow another line and feel great again. It doesn't take many times of doing this to realize that you're hooked, which is a completely new feeling for many of the people who get hooked on meth.

Like I said, this is all from personal experience, not that 1980's war on drugs hypocritical bull [censored].