Daniel N. rips Barry Greenstein!

[Oluwafemi]

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On Daniel's forum someone made a post asking if Barry G. was full of crap when he says he has made the most money in the big game. Daniel N. answers and say yes he has made the most money. But the only reason he has is because Barry keeps unusual records. He only records wins and not losses lol. Then goes on to say Barry G. is delusional if he thinks he's made more than Chip and Doyle.

Someone mentioned that Daniel is upset with Barry maybe for some comments Barry said about Daniel. Can anyone explain what there argument is about? Or post a link. Thanks!

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First off, Daniel doesn’t know me very well. We have played less than ten hours of poker together in our lives. I actually like Daniel because I would rather deal with someone who says what they are thinking than someone who is two-faced. I think he writes well and has been an asset to the game.

He has some possible reasons for his comments:

1. Doyle Brunson and Chip Reese are the only two icons of poker. Anyone who tries to include himself with them and what they have done the last thirty years deserves to be mocked.

2. I play in the “first tier” game and Daniel has in the last couple of years moved up to the second tier. There is some disdain that players in my game share about players who haven’t proven themselves at the highest level.

3. Daniel and I have different religious philosophies. Religious people often consider confident non-religious people arrogant. Daniel mistakenly thinks I mock the religions of others. I only criticized Daniel’s knowledge about scientific and historical events pertaining to religious writings. (I work with many good religious people in my charities, and a couple of them were hurt by his comments about me.)

4. Daniel is a potential opponent and I don’t mind throwing subtle jabs his way out of gamesmanship.

5. I made the mistake of getting involved in a thread regarding Daniel’s integrity. I think Daniel is an honest person. The case can be made that Daniel is too honest with his frank opinions about other players and telling insights regarding his own psychological issues.


I don’t get worked up about things I read on the Internet. I have it better than anyone else in the poker world. Anytime something negative is said about me, ten people write to defend me. When I mentioned to Phil Ivey that Daniel had written that Phil made more money than I did the last few years, Phil gave me the correct answer: “Why do you care?” Insecure people get into prolonged discussions comparing wins in side games. There is no real way to verify results. If you really won the money, that should be good enough.

Barry

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nicely put Barry.
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nothing else needs to be said.

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[Smoothcall]

According to Daniel's statement here(who i guess would be someone with inside info) and other statements he has made of how he needs to TEACH barryg how to play tournaments i would say Daniel think he is not very good at either.

[Smoothcall]

That is not where i got the quote from. So don't tell me i'm misquoting or poorly paraphrasing when you don't even know where i got it from. Some would say it makes you look stupid.

[lastchance]

You know you need to get this guy's book.

[Smoothcall]

Yeah Daniel says he has alot to TEACH Barry lol. Those 2nd tier wannabee's always talk trash!

[theBruiser500]

barryg when is your book coming out

[GuruCane]

That is a f-ing hilarious avatar. I thank you sincerely for bringing laughter to my day.

[TheKnife]

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Seriously, who cares? Daniel and Barry are just people. Who cares about such drama? I realize I didn't have to respond to this, but giving a [censored] about who says what about whoever is like giving a crap about who Jennifer Lopez is [censored] this week.

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[3rdEye]

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thanks again for posting barry.

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I second that. I wish he'd post his thoughts re: the PSI 2 structure, though I guess it's best for him that he doesn't comment until it's been fully televised (assuming he wished to comment at all.

[bradr1]

My name is Brad Reagan and I wrote a book, Aces & Kings, along with Michael Kaplan. An excerpt of the book that appeared on rollingstone.com is what prompted Daniel's comment and the resulting chatter on this bulletin board and others. Barry called Michael and I yesterday to say that he didn't recall ever saying that he won more money than anyone in the history of poker. We went back and looked at our transcript and he is correct - he said he might "possibly" have won more than anyone in poker history, and tempered that statement by explaining that the reason is simply that he was doing well at a time when the stakes were the highest.

Michael and I should have qualified that statement better and, in fact, the early versions of the manuscript were worded more accurately. At some point, unfortunately, it got changed (we're honestly not sure where or by whom) to the way it currently reads. This is an explanation, not an excuse--we should have caught our mistake before the book went to press. In subsequent editions, this will be corrected.

Brad Reagan