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Old 06-10-2005, 03:12 PM
Daliman Daliman is offline
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That seems like a bold, unsubstantiated statement.

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I do that at times, but few top 215'ers limp KTs. Trap hand.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:15 PM
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My impression of OP was that he wasn't putting in his stack with top pair. Now, personally, I think it is a fold, but I think your statement was a little unfair.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: Weird $215 hand

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That seems like a bold, unsubstantiated statement.

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I do that at times, but few top 215'ers limp KTs. Trap hand.

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Calling here with KTs is better than calling 1/3 of a stortstack's button raise with QTo in the BB.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:31 PM
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My impression of OP was that he wasn't putting in his stack with top pair. Now, personally, I think it is a fold, but I think your statement was a little unfair.

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Let's put it this way; I fold KQ early stages there. I have had pretty good success, and am better able to get away from a hand than most. Also, I was speaking in broad terms when I said "you". It wasn't specifically in reference to him, but then again, considering the flop bet, it's probably pretty accurate. Not trying to be a jerk, just calling them like i see them.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: Weird $215 hand

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That seems like a bold, unsubstantiated statement.

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I do that at times, but few top 215'ers limp KTs. Trap hand.

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Calling here with KTs is better than calling 1/3 of a stortstack's button raise with QTo in the BB.

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Me no get. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:41 PM
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Me no get. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I was referring to a hand that I thought was yours but when I went back and checked it was actually sirio11's. It was when Chau Giang called sirio's PFR when sirio had 99 and Chau had QTo in the WSOP rebuy.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:46 PM
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but then again, considering the flop bet

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I lose.
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Old 06-10-2005, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: Weird $215 hand

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I do that at times, but few top 215'ers limp KTs. Trap hand.

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Eh, come on, there are 5 people in this pot besides you already and you've got the button. OK, if you're gonna bet whenever you hit a king or a draw, fold PF, but boy those implied odds sure look juicy.
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Old 06-10-2005, 07:23 PM
DonButtons DonButtons is offline
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Pretty simple rule, the better you are post flop the more hands you play, if your terrible post flop, play hands that play themselves only. But this also contradicts common sng rules that top players use to beat sngs for a decent roi%. Point is, you dont have to play this hand to make good money at sngs, most of your sng success comes from 80% late game, no point to get frisky early (let the fish do that[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]). Ill concur with dali here that I also fold KQ there. Pocket pair is different for a min. raise, but no point to but yourself in a tough spot, specially if you cant play post flop well.
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Old 06-10-2005, 07:32 PM
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I'd rather have KTs than KQo here.
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