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Old 11-29-2005, 03:36 PM
hmkpoker hmkpoker is offline
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Default Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?

The typical cause of taxes is mutual benefit through government intervention. The typical cause of theft is personal need. Assuming that the same amount is being taken in both scenarios, the end is the same...scenario 2 is just terribly unrealistic.
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Old 11-29-2005, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?

The difference is, you'll go to jail if you evade #1 but you'll be a hero if you evade #2.
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Old 11-29-2005, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?

BTW, I noticed that the picture on your icon appears to be that of a soldier.

Do you also believe that taxation for the purpose of paying for military expenditures/adventures is theft as well?
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Old 11-29-2005, 05:05 PM
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Scenario 2) Someone breaks into my house and steals my bankroll. The money is donated to the local school for the benefit of the whole community.



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Robber 1: Hey man, you sure these people are on vacation?
Robber 2: Yes, I'm sure.
Robber 1: And you can bypass the alarm?
Robber 2: Yeah, don't worry about it. I'm telling you this is gonna be our biggest score yet.
Robber 1: Man, I can't wait to donate this money.
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Old 11-29-2005, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?

I work at a VA hospital. I can guarantee you that there are ways in which tax dollars do a lot of good. The idea that a complex society can be run without some form of taxation is naive.
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Old 11-29-2005, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?

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I work at a VA hospital. I can guarantee you that there are ways in which tax dollars do a lot of good. The idea that a complex society can be run without some form of taxation is naive.

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Why stop at the VA hospital, why not nationalize all hospitals? And banks... and oil companies... The money will be used for good!
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:02 PM
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I work at a VA hospital. I can guarantee you that there are ways in which tax dollars do a lot of good. The idea that a complex society can be run without some form of taxation is naive.

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Why stop at the VA hospital, why not nationalize all hospitals? And banks... and oil companies... The money will be used for good!

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I agree. I realize you are not advocating that sort of change but then again I am of a different political persuasion.

However, for those who would do away with taxes completely-How do you run a modern society such as that in any western country.
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?

1% tarriff on anything coming into or out of this country. Should be able to pay for a military.
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?

So, in fact you are in favour of some sort of government collection of money that would be distributed at their discretion.
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: What is the difference betwwen these two scenarios?

Scenario 1) The taxes are taken by a govt. established by a vote of the people, and run by people who are elected by a vote of the people. The money is spent by those same people who have to be periodically re-elected by a vote of the people.

Scenario 2) You have no voice in who breaks into your house. You have no voice in how much they take. You have no voice in who they donate the money too.
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