Would you tell someone about 2+2?

[axioma]

"The question includes "if you were asked..." and I think that's key. If somebody seriously asks me how they can improve their game, I'll certainly point them in the direction of this forum, books, etc."

would you also warn your opponent of an impending mate whilst playing chess, if they asked you nicely?

[Ghazban]

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"The question includes "if you were asked..." and I think that's key. If somebody seriously asks me how they can improve their game, I'll certainly point them in the direction of this forum, books, etc."

would you also warn your opponent of an impending mate whilst playing chess, if they asked you nicely?

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That's different because that is affecting the game we're currently in. I wouldn't talk any kind of serious strategy at the poker table but, if approached after a session about where he could get better, I'd tell someone about this site, books, etc.

[axioma]

surely youve heard the term 'poker is one long game'? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

i guess i just dont see that POV. the person you tell might end up telling 10 people, etc. etc...

why contribute, in however small a way, to making the games tougher? what could you possibly hope to accomplish?

friends of course are another matter, id help them in any way i could (off the table).

[k8as8ey]

Words of Lancey Howard, "The price you paid was to see my cards, lessons are extra."

[Ghazban]

Well, you want the fish to continue to come back, right? If you appear standoffish and miserly with your poker knowledge, that won't make them want to play with you. Just because you tell someone about this site doesn't by any means imply that they will ever get around to coming here and, even if they do, that also doesn't mean that they will take the time to read and study their game. For those that do have the dedication to work on their game, they'll find ways to do that whether I tell them about this site or not.

I believe that the damage to my bottom line from the few people who improve their game solely by following my recommendations is small. On the other hand, having an easygoing, willing-to-help personality is quite useful in getting people to want to play in games I'm in (and this helps my bottom line quite a bit).

[axioma]

you can appear friendly and easygoing without helping your opponents become better players. surely that accomplishes both ends?

[Ghazban]

I just don't think you're giving anything away by mentioning this site. Unless you're online when you say it, they probably won't even remember to go check it out.

A question for you, then-- do you post in the strategy forums and, if so, why do you help people that are already here? Does finding this site instantly make them worthy of your hoarded poker knowledge?

If you don't want people to know about this site, I assume its because you don't want them to get better. Why do you want people already here to get better?

[jnalpak]

as someone who just started reading the 2+2 forum i would mixed in giving out this info. I have been reading sklansky for some months now and knew about the site right away but waited until i felt i was ready for other peoples opinions not to swing my game one way or another.

I would give it out to people who are serious about there game and ALREADY have a game. this way they will take much more from this site then someone who just plays for fun.

[Cleveland Guy]

I'm not telling the average joe stranger - no.

But if it's a friend, or a player I know is already top notch and that I resepect, I think it's wortwhile, cause I would appreciate sharing my thoughts with them, and hearing their thoughts.

I enjoy when you play against a 2+2ers and can exchange thoughts on the hand minutes after it was played, without the whole table knowing your conversation.

[axioma]

"A question for you, then-- do you post in the strategy forums and, if so, why do you help people that are already here?"

I was anticipating this argument. Yes I do. Theres a big difference between people that are here already, and those that are blissfully unaware that there is actually more to the game than they might have first thought.

Additionally, since I benift from the site, it is only right to 'give back' somewhat. When you pass on advice to random person X after a game or whenever else, you stand to make nothing back - only lose.