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| I’d like to see the dead cards. |
   
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6 | 42.86% |
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2 | 14.29% |
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3 | 21.43% |
| Follow each street with the dead cards. |
  
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2 | 14.29% |
| Other placement, other feature, I will elaborate in a post. |
  
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1 | 7.14% |
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#31
08-27-2005, 02:41 AM
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Re: Do you enjoy gambling?
"Do you gamble, sir?"
"Only when I eat out." 
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#32
08-27-2005, 02:48 AM
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Re: Do you enjoy gambling?
I just wanted to add the idea that gambling against friends and acquaintances on near-neutral EV situations can be a decent icebreaker and creates an emotional experience between the two of you, usually good vibes. If this is the case, there is a sort of social +EV to this coinflip assuming the money is trivial to both of you and that you have enough self control so that it doesn't become a raging addiction.
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#33
08-27-2005, 05:14 AM
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Re: Bingo
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I could easily see an argument though that you need to enjoy gambling to become a really good player. [/ QUOTE ] I certainly don't see why. To play very big, perhaps. But I see absolutely no reason why someone with the exact same skills, discipline, and everything else that's important to poker as me except more "love of gambling" will do better than I will. I may not enjoy to raise the river on an extremely high variance bluff, but does that mean I won't do it if I know it is the correct play? If you are smart enough it doesn't matter whether you are risk-averse, risk-loving or risk-neutral. If you have the discipline to make the right play no matter how high variance it is or whatever other factors there are, I see no reason why an additional "love of variance" will allow you to play better poker. It just doesn't add up. Where is the edge coming from?
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#34
08-27-2005, 06:32 AM
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Re: Bingo
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If you are smart enough it doesn't matter whether you are risk-averse, risk-loving or risk-neutral. [/ QUOTE ] Basic economics are at work here. If you don't like to gamble you are seriously doing the wrong thing with your time playing poker.
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#35
08-27-2005, 07:08 AM
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Re: Do you enjoy gambling?
I dont like to gamble in general. I couldnt play a game with a negative expectation but thats not the case in poker for a winning player so I like it.
I try to move up asap though, but its not because I need the gamble with my bankroll but because I feel I would be wasting earn otherwise and you improve faster when playing against better competition.
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#36
08-27-2005, 11:47 AM
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Re: Do you enjoy gambling?
I used to like to bet on football, and I'd play craps and blackjack when I'd go to vegas (once every 1.5 years.) I never bet much and never put money I needed into play. Now that I play poker I don't gamble on anything but poker. I guess I don't see the point in putting money on the line if I don't feel I have an edge.
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#37
08-27-2005, 01:23 PM
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Re: Bingo
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[ QUOTE ] If you are smart enough it doesn't matter whether you are risk-averse, risk-loving or risk-neutral. [/ QUOTE ] Basic economics are at work here. If you don't like to gamble you are seriously doing the wrong thing with your time playing poker. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe I like money and all the other benefits of playing poker more than I dislike variance. I believe it's extremely shallow to say "if you don't enjoy doing a certain thing, you shouldn't do it."
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#39
08-28-2005, 03:07 PM
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Wrapping it up.
Interesting to see that a forum for gambling is split about down the middle on whether they like gambling for it's own sake. Perhaps we can take this as another demonstration that poker isn't about gambling.
Personally, I agree with the idea that non-gamblers that sill play poker are going to tend to be among the very best players. On the other hand, if they didn't enjoy gambling and they lost, why would they play? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I'd argue that the ideal poker player is risk-neutral. They have an advantage over the gamblers. They can be impartial and fold those hands that we oh-so-badly want to see the river with, but that aren't quite getting the right odds. They also have an advantage over the non-gamblers, as they can push those small edges and make those scary thin value bets and raises. Really enjoying gambling hurts your game. Just watch TSP play in a 2+2 15/30 game some time [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] my 2 cents. Eric
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#40
08-28-2005, 06:44 PM
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Re: Wrapping it up.
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Really enjoying gambling hurts your game. Just watch TSP play in a 2+2 15/30 game some time [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Not sure if this is just a joke or not, but for the record I have never bought a lottery ticket, haven't played a hand of blackjack in 10 years, don't bet the horses, don't own stocks, etc. I don't gamble. I invest -- only in myself. TSP
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