KK against a good multitabling TAG

[StellarWind]

I can't believe people are actually suggesting that AA might fold [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img].

I think AA(6), QQ(1), and AQ(8) outrank AK(8) and JJ(6). In particular AA (or KK) is the one hand that I expect him to almost always play this way. All of the rest have question marks on the preflop cap (AK, AQ, JJ), flop raise (AQ, QQ, AK), or turn bet (AK).

The turn raise is poor because you are putting in extra action when you aren't the favorite and could easily be reraised or raised on the river. BTW this pot is big and laying down KK at any point should not be on the table.

[ErrantNight]

he would have to fold it sometimes in order for there to even be a calculation.

since villain isn't folding AA, i'm not sure why the conversation would drift this way.

[mr pink]

good discussion on this thread. thanks guys, i think feel like i learned a lot here.

in case you're interested - villain folded to the turn check/raise.

[DocMartin]

ok, so I am assuming you got him to tell you what he had so we know what you got him to lay down. C'mon, quit leaving us hanging.

How would you play this situation if it came up again? It looks more like JJ or AK (being all results oriented), think you could have squeezed some more bets out of him?

I ask because I play this hand the same way (try to take the pot down as soon as I can, right or wrong) and it is always more delicate when you are up against a tough opponent.

[mr pink]

i have no clue what he had. sorry, i wish i did. it'd be sweet if he laid down AA.

i'm still not sure whether it might be worth that 1 BB just to try and take it down regardless of whether or not you can squeeze another couple bets out of JJ or AK. i think a lot of it depends on how often he'll fold AA (which is the only hand you technically want him to fold) but it seems from others on here that he doesnt fold AA often enough for this to be +EV. i'm still not sure though.

fwiw, villain thought for a LONG time before he finally folded.