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Old 10-05-2005, 09:46 AM
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From an experienced dealer, my caveat is that when planning to become a dealer, when you work for your own tips, slow, non-proficient dealers earn less then fast, quick dealers.

The more hands you get out the more opportunity you make money. This is true dealing blackjack, roulette, poker, anything. So if you're new, expect to earn less ($150 - $200 a day) if that. You may get stuck dealing tournaments which will cut in to your tokes, or grave shift when there are less tables and people.

You may also only get 2 or 3 days on the schedule, and if there are many dealers vying for days to work, it will be difficult to pick up days.

Dealing is not this glorious job, either. Working behind the tables is much different then playing in front of one. I've been spit on, threatened, and that was just from co-workers.

One thing about the casino biz is always have a Plan B. And sometimes a C and D.

Good luck breaking in.
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Old 10-05-2005, 02:35 PM
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So if you're new, expect to earn less ($150 - $200 a day)

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Remember guys, this poster is looking for a Vegas job. This reply came from a Cali guy. Tokes and living expenses are much higher out there in general. A break in here in town being put on graveyard can expect to make roughly half of what is posted above.
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:46 PM
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I mean, we have solid dealing skills, so I dont think bad habits would be a problem

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If this is really true you shoudln't have a problem. I know a lot of places have had to lower their standards with the poker boom. I know when I used to audition delaers in Vegas (I left Vegas in 2001) less than half of the dealers with expeience in AC (that auditioned) were up to speed. We would hite breakin dealers, but there were certain bad habits that dealers pick up that if we saw them in the audition we woudlnt' hire the dealer (carrying the card across the box before dealing it to the 1 seat was the most common error I saw that disqualified the dealer from gettting hired, but there are others).

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I remember hearing that if you roll your deck they stop the audition. Is that still true?
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:59 PM
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I mean, we have solid dealing skills, so I dont think bad habits would be a problem

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If this is really true you shoudln't have a problem. I know a lot of places have had to lower their standards with the poker boom. I know when I used to audition delaers in Vegas (I left Vegas in 2001) less than half of the dealers with expeience in AC (that auditioned) were up to speed. We would hite breakin dealers, but there were certain bad habits that dealers pick up that if we saw them in the audition we woudlnt' hire the dealer (carrying the card across the box before dealing it to the 1 seat was the most common error I saw that disqualified the dealer from gettting hired, but there are others).

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I remember hearing that if you roll your deck they stop the audition. Is that still true?

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I don't know because they have to scrape the bottom of the barrell. If I was auditioning a dealer I would have the regular deler go ahead and tap out the auditioner if he rolled the deck. I would never hire someone that rolled the deck in an audition.
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Old 10-07-2005, 02:52 PM
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What is rolling the deck? You mean turning your hand holding the deck so that the bottom is faced up to the players?
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Old 10-07-2005, 03:08 PM
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What is rolling the deck? You mean turning your hand holding the deck so that the bottom is faced up to the players?

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Yes, the deck should be parallel to the table at all times.
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Old 10-07-2005, 03:46 PM
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What is rolling the deck? You mean turning your hand holding the deck so that the bottom is faced up to the players?

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Yes, the deck should be parallel to the table at all times.

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geez, what kind of paid dealer does this? I'm an amateur player and know not to do this.
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Old 10-07-2005, 03:57 PM
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geez, what kind of paid dealer does this?

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None that I have ever hired, but you see particularly when they pull in bets with their deck hand. There is no excuse for it, but I once had a supervisor taht I worked with tell me it was no big deal because the cut card covers the bottom card anyway (hint: the reason it is such a bad thing to do has to do with the top of the deck not the bottom).
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Old 10-08-2005, 12:37 AM
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It's called a shade. You could get accused of "shading" the deck when you roll it. I've seen dealers get pulled between downs and spoken to about this. It is the most god awful thing I've ever seen. I watched this happen at GVR here in town and I reported it to the floor and he didn't seem to care. He was too busy finding a player for his 2/4 game.
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Old 10-08-2005, 01:11 AM
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It's called a shade. You could get accused of "shading" the deck when you roll it. I've seen dealers get pulled between downs and spoken to about this. It is the most god awful thing I've ever seen. I watched this happen at GVR here in town and I reported it to the floor and he didn't seem to care. He was too busy finding a player for his 2/4 game.

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In this day and age there is a chance he didn't know what you were talking about.
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