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Old 08-10-2005, 01:48 PM
crownjules crownjules is offline
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Default Re: Mid PP in BB - come play along?

Alright. I'll keep this going because I'm fairly certain no one is going to say anything other than bet.

Bet it is!

Turn (5.75 BB): 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, LP folds, Hero ?

Oh noes! Slowplayed monster? This guy hasn't shown much/any aggression thus far, and raising on a turn blank? Ick.
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: Mid PP in BB - come play along?

thats why I ask if this was a turn bet/fold. People love to wait till the turn to raise flopped trips. But without a read...
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:53 PM
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No, you're pretty much right. You want to fold weakER hands that still have a strong draw, such as, in this case, AK. Folding weaker hands that have little to no chance of beating you is setting money on fire.


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Old 08-10-2005, 02:04 PM
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Yikes! Well, let's see -- I think you're getting about 9:1 here, but you'll probably have to call a river bet too. So 5:1 against a so-far-straightforward-player who raised the turn when he was bet into.

You're pretty much only beating a stone cold bluff which I wouldn't expect to see 20% of the time (and even a bluff can outdraw you), so I'd let it go here.
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: Mid PP in BB - come play along?

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Yikes! Well, let's see -- I think you're getting about 9:1 here, but you'll probably have to call a river bet too. So 5:1 against a so-far-straightforward-player who raised the turn when he was bet into.

You're pretty much only beating a stone cold bluff which I wouldn't expect to see 20% of the time (and even a bluff can outdraw you), so I'd let it go here.

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I think I'll just keep on quoting gharp. He's got the right idea.

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Old 08-10-2005, 02:12 PM
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Us Simpsons-character-avatars gotta stick together. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:13 PM
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grunch,
this should be an easy bet, Im not check raising because a 3 bet could be disasterous if he happeed to have the J. I bet, if raised, Im check call and watching the turn board carefully, if hes still very aggressive I consider a fold.
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:17 PM
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Turn (5.75 BB): 5 (3 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, LP folds, Hero ?

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Fold. You could consider calling down heads up but unless he has you beaten or is smoking crack he isn't raising this against 2 players often enough to warrant calling down.
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:22 PM
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Grunch:

I'm a maniac, but I say bet, hoping that your TAG will raise making it heads up. If the others stay in, don't put in another bet.

If you get this Heads Up, does it become WA/WB?
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:29 PM
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Alright. I'll keep this going because I'm fairly certain no one is going to say anything other than bet.

Bet it is!

Turn (5.75 BB): 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, LP folds, Hero ?

Oh noes! Slowplayed monster? This guy hasn't shown much/any aggression thus far, and raising on a turn blank? Ick.

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If you fold, I say NH. I play it the same way.
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