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11-17-2005, 03:31 PM
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"Basically, you're claiming that living in Canada and cheating on your taxes and stealing "free" healthcare from your countrymen is better than living in the US and paying for your own healthcare. That's not a very fair comparison since you're using theft"
I advocate nothing illegal. I am saying one can easily manipulate the Canadian tax system to avoid paying taxes on gambling winnings in the US and Canada for Canadians. And we get free health care as well. That's not theft, that's + EV. Do you consider the money you take away from poker players who play worse than yourself (you know, all us guys not good enough to get into your 4000/8000 game) theft? 
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11-17-2005, 05:00 PM
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I advocate nothing illegal. [/ QUOTE ] First of all, I'm talking about theft, not necessarily something illegal. Lots of criminal activity is condoned by governments. [ QUOTE ] I am saying one can easily manipulate the Canadian tax system to avoid paying taxes on gambling winnings in the US and Canada for Canadians. [/ QUOTE ] Is this legal? Maybe not paying taxes is legal in Canada, I'm not really up to speed on Canadian tax laws, but somehow I find this hard to believe. [ QUOTE ] And we get free health care as well. That's not theft, that's + EV. [/ QUOTE ] It's not free, it's paid for by taxes. Forcing your countrymen to pay for your healthcare, whether you contribute taxes yourself or not, is theft. Of course, I could be wrong and every taxpayer in Canada is happy to voluntarily pay for you to get "free" healthcare, but again, I kinda doubt it. Theft is +EV for the thief, but it's still theft and it's still criminal. [ QUOTE ] Do you consider the money you take away from poker players who play worse than yourself (you know, all us guys not good enough to get into your 4000/8000 game) theft? [/ QUOTE ] I don't force anyone to play poker.
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#33
11-17-2005, 05:27 PM
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"I don't force anyone to play poker."
And I don't force anybody to take another job. Consequences of that are paying full income tax. It is their choice, not mine. I have found a job which allows me to not pay taxes, and I encourage others to take it too. But if they don't want to they don't have to. So my health care is not theft. It is part of the contract that citizens of my country agree too.
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#34
11-17-2005, 06:15 PM
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And I don't force anybody to take another job. Consequences of that are paying full income tax. It is their choice, not mine. I have found a job which allows me to not pay taxes, and I encourage others to take it too. But if they don't want to they don't have to. [/ QUOTE ] You're dodging the first question and ignoring the second question. Are you illegally avoiding your taxes or not? Regardless of your tax situation, whether you pay them or not, and whether you're supposed to or not, taxation of others is theft. Saying that they only have to pay taxes if they "choose" to engage in taxable professions is a violation of their freedom and property rights. Is it OK with you if I say I'm going to shoot you in the head unless you go plow my field? Hey, you've got a choice not to get shot in the head. It's your choice, right? [ QUOTE ] So my health care is not theft. It is part of the contract that citizens of my country agree too. [/ QUOTE ] Really? Can I see a copy of it? Who signed it?
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#35
11-17-2005, 06:38 PM
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So my health care is not theft. It is part of the contract that citizens of my country agree too. [/ QUOTE ] Wow. I didnt know I "agreed" to pay taxes. I'd like to disagree now.
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#36
11-17-2005, 08:47 PM
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[ QUOTE ] So my health care is not theft. It is part of the contract that citizens of my country agree too. [/ QUOTE ] Wow. I didnt know I "agreed" to pay taxes. I'd like to disagree now. [/ QUOTE ] Me too. I don't remember signing anything.
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#37
11-17-2005, 08:50 PM
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Oh and Peter666. I don't dicourage anyone from not paying taxes. I think anyone who disagrees with the way the money is being spent should.
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#38
11-17-2005, 09:30 PM
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Oh and Peter666. I don't dicourage anyone from not paying taxes. I think anyone who disagrees with the way the money is being spent should. [/ QUOTE ] A valid point. Of course, I'm mostly concerned with Peter666's claims that he's not advocating anything "illegal" and his use of the taxation issue to change the subject away from the comparison of Canadian casinos to Vegas casinos.
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#39
11-17-2005, 10:18 PM
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"You're dodging the first question and ignoring the second question. Are you illegally avoiding your taxes or not?
What are you talking about? I already told you before I "advocate nothing illegal" Everything I do is condoned by the Canada Revenue Agency. "It is part of the contract that citizens of my country agree too." "Really? Can I see a copy of it? Who signed it?" Yeah, its called the Canadian Income Tax Act as put into law by our elected representatives. Look it up on the internet or a local library near you.
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