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Old 06-27-2005, 05:46 AM
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the Sox would be giving up way too much if they trade Arroyo and Hanley Ramirez for Burnett.

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yes, you are correct.
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Old 06-28-2005, 11:41 AM
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For those wondering about Guardado I heard he has been pitching with elbow pain, and coming off a shoulder injury...he is probably not an option
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:54 PM
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Okay, been ignoring this thread for a while. My two pennies:

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How much longer should Theo/Terry wait before cutting their losses with Embree?

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Other than a phantom injury or the Sox eating the remainder of his $3M salary, I can't see how they can do anything with Embree. With 11 years of service I doubt he has options.

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What do you do with Foulke?

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Foulke is what he is. They have to let him try to work through it. I don't see an established closer out there. Gotta give Foulke four more weeks to work himself out of it.

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Who should be bumped to the pen when Schill comes back, and in what role?

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Arroyo

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Who is available on the trade market?

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There was speculation of a Mueller & Shoppach for Otsuka & grub deal a couple weeks ago. I like Mueller, but he is 34 years old, with gummy knees, and will be a FA at the end of the season. Moving him gets Youkilis in the game. Mueller's on the books for $2.5M this year, the balance of which should be tradeable. Mueller is also reputed to be a "clubhouse guy" though, so moving him could be disruptive.

Otsuka has control issues (1.43 WHIP) and is Millwood-esque when it comes to holding runners. On the plus side, he's tough against lefties and has a 2:1 K:BB ratio.

If I'm SD, I don't give this guy up, though.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Millar shipped out of town for a couple of baseballs and a bag of sunflower seeds.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Sox do some minor deal rather than a blockbuster. They're on pace to score 900 runs and their pitching hasn't been that bad. They've been on a tear for the past couple of weeks. I think Theo should stand pat unless something falls in his lap.

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What about this kid Hanson?

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I think they should wait on this kid.
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Old 06-28-2005, 03:12 PM
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Who should be bumped to the pen when Schill comes back, and in what role?

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Arroyo

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????
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Old 06-29-2005, 10:44 AM
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This wouldn't happen in a million years but I had a brainstorming idea for the Sox bullpen woes. Curt Schilling as the closer.
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Old 06-29-2005, 11:32 AM
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This wouldn't happen in a million years but I had a brainstorming idea for the Sox bullpen woes. Curt Schilling as the closer.

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Which would be a silly, reactionary move.
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Old 06-29-2005, 12:50 PM
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foulke is a just a mystery. i suppose the main culprit could be hes burnt out after last october. with this type of dropoff in production, injury HAS to be the #1 suspect. reports that his knees are in bad shape appear to hold some water. if hes injured i dont see why he isnt on the DL, the team can manage without him (call up i suppose), i mean it has for this long.....

good news anyways, schlling plays tonight [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-29-2005, 12:51 PM
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Foulke is what he is. They have to let him try to work through it. I don't see an established closer out there. Gotta give Foulke four more weeks to work himself out of it.


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Yep. Nailed that one.

Granted it's only one outing, but Foulke looked awful last night. It has to be as much mental as it is physical. The guy looked like he just didn't want to be in there.

I also wonder if he's pulling a Nomar with his attitude. His 'tude stinks. STFU and pitch. No one feels sorry for you.
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Old 06-29-2005, 12:52 PM
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I don't agree it would be silly. The Braves did it with Smoltz with great success when they were in dire need of a closer.

Right now, the strength of the Sox pitching is starting and when Schilling comes back, one of those starters will be bumped to long/middle relief. Long relievers do not make or break a club, closers do. Of the 6 starters, I think Schilling would be the best at closing.
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Old 06-29-2005, 12:55 PM
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Toro -

There is no chance that they'd take a starter coming off an injury and make him a closer. Schilling will need his days' rest.

Foulke was never a flamethrower, but his velocity is way down. I don't think he touched 90 once last night. Juicer?
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