Sleep - Page 4

CaptObvious · #31 05-11-2005, 10:04 PM

Yes, yes, I should've been more clear...*L* Yes, automotive accidents. Not just random falling off the sidewalk and dying type of thing [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] It's in William Dement's book, "The Power of Sleep." It's a great book for anyone remotely interested. Let me see if I can snag some links for ya..

purnell · #32 05-11-2005, 10:25 PM

A mayo clinic study on melatonin and sleep disorder(s) that I haven't read yet, just stumbled across it looking for something else:http://www.mayoclinic.org/news2003-rst/1937.html

Instinct · #33 05-13-2005, 08:35 AM

I'm going to recommend a very good book that I think would be quite useful.
It's called "8 weeks to optimum health" - Andrew Weil, M.D.

In a nut shell the book does not take the approach of looking at your bad habits and needing to come up with a plan to change them. Rather the approach is a slow one whereby you just make a few changes to life in the folowing areas:

Diet, supplements, exercise, mental/spiritual.

For example in week one you do not have to do much. Go for a 10 min walk 5 days a week. Take vitimin C. Eat brocolli twice during the week, eat salmon once. Practice breathing techniques and buy yourself some flowers for your home. There are a few other things he asked you to do but not much.

Basically he is trying to improve your bodies immune system and energy levels so that you will also develop motivation over time to have the dicipline to change habits like smoking.

stankphish · #34 05-13-2005, 01:00 PM

Try taking Xanax or Valium on the weekends when you know that you are going to wanna stay up late. They make you feel good and you can't help but fall asleep. I pretty much have the exact same problem as you do and thats what helps me.

felson · #35 05-13-2005, 07:49 PM

Here is an article on sleeping pills which says that no pill is effective as behavioral therapy. It cites this book by a Harvard Med School author.

DanS · #36 05-13-2005, 11:43 PM

This thread is awesome. I'm in a 4:30 a.m til 1 or 2 p.m. sleep cycle right now, and I've been this way since I was 21 (I'm 25 now). It hasn't always been this bad, and it goes away when I occassionally got a temp job (under the pretense of normalizing my sleep cycle and/or getting ready to go back to school). My last couple of years of real success at poker/casino whoring definitely makes it worse. Don't even ask about how I am when I have to work up at 7 on Sunday morning for the one real day of work I do a week (reffing hockey).

The part the OP wrote about how he's not even tired enough to go to sleep, but somehow does is eerie (sp?)... it's like I wrote it.

Dan

plaster8 · #37 05-14-2005, 07:04 AM

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Sounds like sleep apnea (spelling)?? I have it, but don't do what the doctors want me to do.

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I have sleep apnea, which can be a very serious disorder. You actually stop breathing many times each night as you sleep and wake up very briefly. You don't even know you've woken up, but the result is that you never drop into REM sleep and never feel fully rested.

I think it can be fatal if untreated for a long period of time, or at least contribute to poor health.

To the original poster: If you're frequently tired even after getting 8 hours of sleep, you may want to consider doing a sleep study.

And to texasholdemnut: Have you tried a CPAP machine? It took me a long time to get used to mine, but I'm really happy I have it now.