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Old 03-18-2005, 03:50 PM
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Well, there are some of us who will buy Paulson, but not Matsui.

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I understand your position, but I am all for getting the chips the way we want them: mold, inlays, colors, cost, etc. If Paulson doesnt want to do it then I vote for opening discussions with Matsui (or another quality vendor). A little competition never hurts especially if the quality is the same. I'd rather have the chip set we really wanted from another manufacturer instead of spending the next year talking about the "Paulson" set we have that almost had what we wanted. Especially if there are so many concessions.

I am in this buy for a really good quality clay chip set that has great art designed around a theme I like. Ten sold me with his prior work on the Chipco Egyptians. The Paulson name never comes up during the biweekly tournaments we play.

I would like to see another poll of Paulson vs Matsui (or other) from the people that have already committed to order and one for everyone else. The poll would need to be based on Paulson providing product A with less than we want and Matsui providing product B with everthing we wanted.
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:03 PM
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I would like to see another poll of Paulson vs Matsui (or other) from the people that have already committed to order and one for everyone else. The poll would need to be based on Paulson providing product A with less than we want and Matsui providing product B with everthing we wanted.

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The problem with "everything we want" is different for everyone. As much as I would have loved shaped inlays there are others that did not want them. Paulson limiting the options really works to Ten's advantage. Give everyone unlimited choices and it will disolve into chaos and never happen.
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: Some Trademark updates

first of all, this is not a democracy, it's a cheer-ocracy. and polls, as seen in the past, are for information gathering purposes, and not really for voting. face it, guys, ten's the man, and we're just buying sweet chips that he created. oh yah, and we get some input.

that being said, the premise of this buy was:
-fantasy set
-classic vegas casino style
-paulson
-shapped inlays

we're getting 3 out of 4 of those foundation points. i've both JB and matsui clay samples, and i've been playing around with them for weeks. matsui is nice, but it's no contest.

there's a reason why paulson can be inflexible; they're the best. by a longshot. and i'm happy that i'm gonna be getting me some.
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:16 PM
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That's hard to imagine, with a product(Matsui) at least as good, with a custom mold, custom colors, and probably? shaped inlays... that would make the ultimate fantasy clay set.



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I'm half-way with you man. I honestly LOVE Matsui clay chips. But I've yet to hold an inlay chip in my hand, and even Matsui was not too confident in them until a few weeks ago.

But this buy is ALL about Paulson. The Cadillac of chips.

Ten
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:17 PM
TenPercenter TenPercenter is offline
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Well, there are some of us who will buy Paulson, but not Matsui.

I mean if this doesn't pan out, I'll probably just end up ordering a batch of the JB chips, or maybe nothing at all.

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BITE YOUR TONGUE! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I have 100% faith in it happening. Not a single doubt.

Ten
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:21 PM
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Well, there are some of us who will buy Paulson, but not Matsui.

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If Paulson doesnt want to do it then I vote for opening discussions with Matsui (or another quality vendor). A little competition never hurts especially if the quality is the same.

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Ok, let's not open another can of "Blue $1 Worms" ok? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Seriously, this group buy is Paulson, period. It's why I started it, and it would fall aprt if we suddenly changed it. And trust me, "competition" for Paulson won't matter a hill of beans. Paulson would be happy to be rid of me. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I was told just today that Trademark had to BEG Paulson to allow single orders of less than 250,000, so Matsui would be a relief to Paulson.

Ten
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:23 PM
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I have read other posts with the same message, so if Ten communicates that he doesnt feel like he is making major consessions than I agree with you. If I remember right, most of the wants: different inlays, concentric circles, colors, graphics, etc., originated from Ten or J5. Most of us have just provided feedback on what we do and dont like when given a choice. If Ten says he would rather have the Paulson name vs the other things he gives up, then thats the decision. On the other hand, if doesnt want to give up the other choices then I am in favor of testing the waters with another manufacturer. Either way I am still in [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]!!!

Ten, what is the "must" have list of chip features for you to stay with Paulson? Are ther any that havent been accepted by Paulson?
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:24 PM
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Ok, I bit it, and now I'm bleeding all over everything.

You want me to put my kilobuck in escrow? I'm with ya.

I really want this thing to happen.
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:24 PM
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I have some Matsui clays and I have Paulsons as well and I think Paulsons are hands down better than the Matsui's. The matsui's are nice but just PP for me.
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:32 PM
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Ok, let's not open another can of "Blue $1 Worms" ok? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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So...are you saying there is a $1 chip with blue egyptian worms on it? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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