Any internet sites that may have to shut down soon? - Page 3

Jurollo · #21 05-21-2004, 01:13 PM

BOTTOM LINE Gabby: The US cannot close down that which it doesnt have jurisdiction over, as much as we seem to want to sometimes. So every site out there, barring a few newbies, such as nutz poker, cannot be shut down but the US, and WILL NOT be shut down by their respective governments. So no worries everyone, now lets play nice!

Stew · #22 05-21-2004, 06:57 PM

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This almost tops the list of the many, many asinine statements

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Was it asinine when I posted the warning about Choice poker? Was it even more asinine when you called me a moron and told everyone else there was nothing to worry about, when indeed their deposits were at risk?

Just because you keep posting the same rhetoric over and over again does not mean that it becomes factual.

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You seem to assume that just b/c you made the correct prediction regarding Choice that you are now the omnipotent clairvoyant one and that everyone's money is in jeopardy everywhere. Your continual paranoid rants about online poker only slightly amuse me, while still leaving me highly annoyed.

OK, for the last time, you got Choice right, well done. That, however, has not increaed your credibility. Especially, when you continually make posts that are factually inaccurate and ring of conspiracy theories, from the US government putting a complete end to online gambling on this planet to the game being rigged...yet you still play online (allegedly) and you still have your money (allegedly) deposited into online gaming sites, despite your own self-admitted skpeticism and fears.

Give a rest, you got Choice right, good for you. Please refrain from posting unless you have some factual information to back-up your statements (as you did with Choice).

Thanks!

Slacker13 · #23 05-21-2004, 07:10 PM

The World Trade Organization has ruled that the US policy prohibiting online gambling violates its obligations under international trade law.

This is the WTO’s first decision on an Internet-related dispute, and has prompted outrage from the Bush administration, which has vowed to appeal the decision.

"It's appalling," said Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va. "It cannot be allowed to stand that another nation can impose its values on the U.S. and make it a trade issue."

The ruling by a WTO panel Wednesday is being hailed by online casinos operators overseas as a major victory that could force the United States to liberalize its laws.

The decision stems from a case taken to the WTO in June by the island nation of Antigua and Barbuda, which licenses 19 companies that offer sports betting and casino games such as blackjack over the Internet.

Antigua and Barbuda argued that U.S. trade policy does not prohibit cross-border gambling operations and that the United States would be hypocritical to do otherwise because it wants to allow American casino operations to operate land-based and Internet-based subsidiaries overseas.

Ronald Sanders, the island’s chief foreign affairs representative, said he believes the United States must liberalize its online gambling regulations or risk being hypocritical about its stance on free trade. "The U.S. says it wants open competition," he said. "But it only wants free trade when it suits the U.S."

Millions of Americans gamble over the Internet, using credit cards or online payment services to wager on sports or at games such as poker and blackjack.

gabyyyyy · #24 05-21-2004, 07:13 PM

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The World Trade Organization has ruled that the US policy prohibiting online gambling violates its obligations under international trade law.

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This means nothing to our government. You really think that we are going to allow another country to tell us what laws we can and cannot make?

Stew · #25 05-21-2004, 07:15 PM

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The World Trade Organization has ruled that the US policy prohibiting online gambling violates its obligations under international trade law.

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This means nothing to our government. You really think that we are going to allow another country to tell us what laws we can and cannot make?

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The WTO isn't a country, duh.

gabyyyyy · #26 05-21-2004, 07:18 PM

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Especially, when you continually make posts that are factually inaccurate and ring of conspiracy theories, from the US government putting a complete end to online gambling on this planet

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How am I completely wrong? Perhaps you have missed the recent "Internet Funding Prohibition act" legislation that passed the house my a huge margin.

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and you still have your money (allegedly) deposited into online gaming sites,

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So a person who plays on the internet, is not allowed to voice legitimate concerns about the future of online gambling?

Almost every senator and representative would disagree with your stance Stew. Almost all United States congress members feel internet gambling should be made illegal in the U.S.

Unfortunately, the opinion of U.S congress members means slightly more then anything you have to say.

gabyyyyy · #27 05-21-2004, 07:19 PM

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This means nothing to our government. You really think that we are going to allow another country to tell us what laws we can and cannot make?

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The WTO isn't a country, duh.

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Right, they represent the planet Mars.

Slacker13 · #28 05-21-2004, 07:27 PM

For starters the WTO is not a country. Allow me educate...

The World Trade Organization (WTO) is the only global international organization dealing with the rules of trade between nations. At its heart are the WTO agreements, negotiated and signed by the bulk of the world’s trading nations and ratified in their parliaments. The goal is to help producers of goods and services, exporters, and importers conduct their business.

Do I think the US will listen to the WTO? It seems for now they have no choice.

Damn your paranoid.

Stew · #29 05-21-2004, 11:37 PM

[/ QUOTE ] How am I completely wrong? Perhaps you have missed the recent "Internet Funding Prohibition act" legislation that passed the house my a huge margin.

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Are you talking about this: http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index...amp;sequence=0

If so, that never passed and killed in committee. Just what bill are you talking aobut?

Stew · #30 05-21-2004, 11:40 PM

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So a person who plays on the internet, is not allowed to voice legitimate concerns about the future of online gambling?

Almost every senator and representative would disagree with your stance Stew. Almost all United States congress members feel internet gambling should be made illegal in the U.S.

Unfortunately, the opinion of U.S congress members means slightly more then anything you have to say.

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You certainly have a right to voice your opinion about it. but, why do you participate in something where you don't feel your money is safe and teh games are rigged, that behavior is inconsistent and irrational.

As far as our Congressman disagreeing, I don't think that's so true and it certainly is not true with one particular Senator that I personally know, who feels it should legalized and tax to high heaven. Do you know any congressmen personally?

Furthermore, the US Supreme Court has already ruled that our government cannot ban internet gambling (by prohibiting someone from placing a bet via the internet) that is a right reserved to individual states.

Again, find some facts before you speak.