Hellmuth Book "Controversy"?

[Still the Spank E]

I realize it's just me, but I'd rather live free or die! But that's just me. I do, of course, realize that backers cut down on one's exposure to bad cards at inopportune moments. It STILL diminshes my respect for the players slightly.

[Mason Malmuth]

Hi Tim:

What you're saying isn't correct. By switching backers when you're losing, it i very possible for the player to make money and his backers to lose overall.

Best wishes,
mason

[Zele]

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In order to have backers year in and year out, they must be winning tournament players. Neither backer or player is going to continue doing what they're doing if they don't profit from it.

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Actually an otherwise losing player could quite easily profit from this situation, mainly by seeking payouts of high variance. Classic principal-agent problem. See also financial options or bonus-based compensation, among others.

[bernie]

i think dan negreaneu also did a good article on it also. but im not sure what it's called. it's probably on his website.

b

[Still the Spank E]

There's a link to it at the end of the Dalla article at Poker Pages.

[JTrue]

The link for Nolan Dalla's article on Tournament Players is http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/a...s/dalla27.htm. Don't miss Daniel Negreanus response on the the bottom of the page.

[Aceshigh7]

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The style of limit play advocated in "Play Poker Like The Pros" is highly aggressive and loose. This is a recipe for trouble for an experienced player, but it spells disaster for the target audience for this book.

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With all respect, have you actually read the book? Highly aggressive, yes. But loose? Of course not. Phil's advice is bordering on super tight.

[jdl22]

Bordering? He says to play ten hands. Granted he doesn't mention suited or not and two of them aren't pairs so it's actually twelve, but this is super tight by any definition.

[blackaces13]

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He says to play ten hands.

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This is a bit of a misconception. He tells BEGINNERS to play 10 hands. Later in the book he adds all pairs, KQ, Axs, and suited connectors above 67s and the situations where these hands become playable. I'm all for bashing Phil's book, but in fairness lets keep the facts straight.

[DonWaade]

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With all respect, have you actually read the book? Highly aggressive, yes. But loose? Of course not. Phil's advice is bordering on super tight.

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Right, I forgot that 77 being a top ten hand meant "super tight." Where DID I put my HEFAP? Oh thats right, it is with the other books that have poker theroy value.