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Old 11-29-2005, 11:58 AM
rachelwxm rachelwxm is offline
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Default Re: The infamous low overpair. Stadard?

easy fold for me.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:54 PM
GrunchCan GrunchCan is offline
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Default Re: The infamous low overpair. Stadard?

I think this hand is fairly interesting because it happens a lot, and I've never really thought about it in-depth.

I never really liked playing this hand the way OP did, but it's always been my standard line becasue it seems like the least-evil line. So I thought a bit about the possible lines & thier pros & cons in this general situation where you have a marginal overpair to the board.

Thoughts, please.

Pot flop:
Pros:
- Good pot control
- Good hand protection
- Good value when we are ahead
- Moderate hand definition

Cons:
- We might lose the max when we are behind. Deciding to continue after a raise is a difficult decision.

Underbet Flop
Pros:
- Better pot control than PSB
- Usually good value when we are ahead
- Good protection (not as good as PSB)
- Easier decisions if opponent raises

Cons:
- Sometimes we win the least when ahead; some opponents are encouraged to bluff us off our hand
- poor hand definition

Overbet Flop
Pros:
- Best protection
- Good Fold Equity
- Moderate value

Cons:
- Pot growth is totally out of control
- Maximum exposure to a better hand
- We're very often pot stuck regardless of future action
- Minium value when we have best hand

Check-Call Flop
Pros:
- Good pot control
- Good value if opponent will bet overcards

Cons:
- Doesn't protect hand
- Doesn't get value for hand from passive opponents
- Doesn't define opponent's range at all
- Lose moderate when behind

Check-Fold Flop
Pros:
- We lose the least when behind

Cons:
- We win the least when ahead

Check-Raise Flop
Pros:
- Offers good hand protection & good value if opponent will bluff at the pot with overcards often

Cons:
- We lose the most when behind
- We win the least when ahead against all other types of opponents
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