End the Abortion Debate

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Well, the government already decided when sentience began in Roe v Wade. For someone that is very anti government your outsourcing a pretty big decision to them.


No, I'm not outsourcing the decision to anyone. I'm leaving where it belongs. With the woman.

[FishNChips]

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My position is a lot of fun.

1. I support legalized abortion, for sure, in the first and second trimesters. In the third trimerster I'm middling, but I don't really care that much one way or the other.

2. Roe v. Wade was a horrid legal decision that should be overturned. Its negative impacts on the country and the Court itself are still felt today.

3. Though I would not live in any state without legalized abortion, I believe should be up to the states to make their own laws in regard to abortion. Federalism trumps other considerations in this regard.

Will

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Interesting. What about the 3rd trimester has you middling?

Curious as to why you think RvW is so aweful?

Agree with you on states's rights.

FishNChips

[FishNChips]

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I think people would be more satisfied if they got a chance to voice thier concerns and simply lost or didn't get all they wanted. There are millions of issues ranging from healthcare to taxation, but none poison our political debate the way abortion does.

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What about the religious right and its collective penis envy of homosexuals?

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[lehighguy]

So if one women decides it begins at 5 months, and another says it begins at 6 months, which one is right?

If a women decides to kill thier 2 month old kid, we don't let them. Why is this any different?

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

You know, I'm getting invoved in a debate I swore I would never again get into. It gets too emotional.

I have no desire for you to change your opinion on this subject, thus this debate is fruitless. I've heard it all before and I've been on the same side of this issue for 35 years.

I tried to be conciliatory at the beginning but I see I was wrong to do so.

Let me be clear. I believe it is a fundamental human right for a woman to be able to terminate a pregnancy anytime, anywhere, for any reason.

You may have whatever last word makes you happy.

[lehighguy]

I suppose that is why the debate will never end. Christian types will keep voting for republicans because you got the court to impose your particular view of the beginning of life on them. It'll get worse and worse as you impose more believes through the court instead of taking the time to convince people your right.

I have argued this a lot... and I seem to get nowhere. Life ends where life begins -- with cognizance, measured by higher brain-wave activity. This is measurable around the 26th week of pregnancy. It may not be exact, but it's a damn good compromise, I think. A woman should have until the 2nd trimester to legally abort for whatever reason. After that, abortion only in the case where the mother's life is in danger.

[Utah]

The problem is that your argument opens the door to lots of other things as well. You therefore must be pro drug choice, pro suicide choice, and a host of other things.

[lehighguy]

I believe he is, as am I. Those are really bad examples anyway.

[Utah]

They are perfect examples. If you want to make a base an arugment on healthcare or "my body" principles only then you open those doors. I am not saying those ideas are bad.